Battlezone 1

There are 2 default ranks. When you register, you are "DMer ". After making 2nd post you become "stratter " and you preserve that rank no matter how many posts you make. I never liked forums where one could get a "better" rank for posting a lot of (crappy) posts. Quality before quantity is this forum's motto.

There are also few special ranks (I make them up as I go), reserved for a special memebers of this community. Having that special rank dosn't necessarily mean something good, nor something bad. Ultraken is "Bz programmer", because I find it silly to call him "stratter". Tug is a "DM'er" even though he made over 2 posts, cause he never played a strat game, he only plays Stealth tank DM. Then there are few "hackers", "Bz2 players", "team dummy members" etc.

The main purpose of special ranks is to get a better picture of someone, of someone's post. It is especially important for the new readers, concerning that old readers know who is who. I.E. it is not the same to get a game-bug answer from a "Bz programmer" or from the "team dummy member". Then it is not the same to take (Bz1) strat advice from a Bz2 player, a stratter, or a DM'er.

If someone doesn't like given rank, you can always comaplain. I'll see what I can do...

I don't remember you electing me for a forum admin, nor you paying forum taxes, so about what democracy are you talking about? Even if this was a democratic forum, you wouldn't be the one who decides of your rank. We would have a voting and trust me, you would get the exact rank you have now. You talk about Bz2 non-stop, not just here, in the lobby too. You also keep passing Bz2 links, recruting players for your obviously prefered game. Reminds me of those BzE morons. You brought 0 players from Bz2, but you tried to take away few.


Giving you rank "Call of Duty" on a Bz1 forum where you can't stop talking about Bz2 being better, would be kinda silly, don't you agree?

I feel that i have a duty to respectfully disagree. i have spent MANY hours both in the lobby and ingame talking and playing with dominant. and only twice was BZ2 mentioned in anything more than "this strat map is also in BZ2". there are definately people who talk BZ2 stuff FAR more than dominant, who has been a committed BZ1 player.

furthermore, since when is playing BZ2 punishable? the general opinion is that it isnt as good as BZ1 (an opinion that i agree with wholeheartedly) but if one isnt siding with BZU retardation, BZE failure, hackers, noobs who ruin games, or just the general harm of BZ1, i dont understand why its a problem if one mentions BZ2 or even spends some time playing it. especially if its very obvious to all of the people who play them that the person is a supporter of BZ1 by (most importantly) playing the game as it was meant to be played. dominant i believe exemplifies that.

Spock, at the same time i dont want you to think that i at all misunderstand or am uncaring about all the trouble that most BZ2 players have caused for you, especially since BZ2 playing has usually come with noobishness, hacking, BZE support, form abuse, and all other forms of nastiness. i do understand that BZ2 is a sore spot with good reason, but i also would like to say that Dominant is definately none of those things that have tried and failed to destroy BZ1.

This is ridiculous.
I disagreed with you in a debate, so i get my forum title changed? That's what i mean in the democracy, you can't get a say without getting put down or 'singled out'.
I have not tried to move players from bz1 to bz2.
spl eagles is a former bz2 player, i played with him before, he asked me a question in lobby on how to get his battlezone II working, i helped him, why is that a problem? I don't recruit players for bz2 because i believe its a waste of time. And i know you work hard to get battlezone 1 alive, why would i try and ruin that?
I wouldn't, i prefer bz1, and i've said it many times, just because i mentioned bz2 has more aspects doesn't mean i find it better..
Oh, and i had brought 3 players from bz2, and probably a couple more when 1.5 patch is running. I never mention bz2 in lobby unless somebody else mentions it first.
Oh and call me a 'bz2 player' that doesn't know what hes talking about, when i have a winning head2head record vs everyone on the 'stratters list' that i've played apart from Spock, Hyper and HAL (who i haven't managed to play yet).

I'm not apart of the dumb group of people who try to ruin battlezone 1. So don't f****** compare me to a bunch of low-lifes.

Spock, i don't have a problem with you, i believe you work hard for this community.
But it obviously seems you have a problem with me, which is unexplained so far..

You haven't been online a lot, for the past few days Dom's been talking a lot of Bz2 with Spl Eagles, who apparently just got it.



I don't recall this Vulcan-Human hybrid saying that it was punishable. It's just a "correct" labeling. Dominant plays Bz2, so the rank of "Bz2 Player", could fit. I don't believe that Spock has mentioned that it was a problem playing Bz2, it makes sense. If I were to constantly start talking about some random game, constantly in the lobby over and over like a record that needs to be cremated, I may have my rank changed, I wouldn't have a problem with that(don't you dare think of changing my rank Vulcan ). There are several Bz2 players here and there, and some do play and aren't currently trying to destroy the game, so no one can call this rank a punishment(unless you hate Bz2 with avengance).

Being a Bz2 player doesn't mean a punishment, just a reflection of one's actions/charcter. I'm primarily a stratter, along with you fury, so the rank fits. As for Dom's situation.... I'd rather not go into it.

SPL eagles played bz2 a few years ago under the name 'general aflac' ask him if you like.
I mentioned bz2 because i was pissed off about the situation, i'd much rather play bz1, i usually only mention bz2 when im pissed off about somethnig that had just happened on there.

Actually some are annoyed that i play bz1 hehe.
Quote from bz2maps -

Fact is i may aswell be called a 'bz1 player' i play the game more

Oh and MY situation. Please go into it.

I don't wish to be apart of any bz2 sterotyping either.

Wow, if you only mention BZ2 when you're pissed, that says a few things. It says that you dislike BZ2, that you punish random people by having them waste their time on BZ2 (Spl Eagles), and that you must be pissed a lot lately. What happened that pissed you off? You can't say that having rank changed originally pissed you off, because your rank was changed because of you mentioning BZ2 a lot, not the other way around. As was said before, being a "BZ2 Player" in forum rank isn't a punishment or something bad. It's neutral.

All this quoting out of context is bloody maddening.

I might play BZ2, but I primarily play strat in it when I do. Stratter, which was my previous rank, would have suited just fine.

A changed rank signifies everyone to point and laugh. It is apparantly being used as a label of either approvement, "stratter " or condescension "Bz2 Player." If not, no ranks would need changing. In another thread, it was revealed that BZ2 player label is meant to pen up one's opinions, so much of this post is cancelled out by my current rank, and should be ignored.

I will stop here, because I will be soon quoted out of context and be incorrect yet again. Nobody will give an inch on this board. Furykiller, I applaud you for a neutral post that addresses the issue itself and not the people.

Hyper, I've had BZ2 for many years, same as BZ1 (BZ1 longer, obviously), but it's been a few years since I played BZ2 and I was not sure how to get it working on my current computer. I played BZ2 MP a bit a while back, yes, and under the name General Aflac (don't ask ). I actually was aiming at getting it working so I could install one or two of the mods for it so I could have a new campaign to play, rather than the original campaigns in both games that I've already completed. The reason I've been talking about it a lot with him was because I've somehow been having difficulty getting it working. I'm not sure where a problem is about talking about a game in the lobby (unless BzE from what I've heard) is something to argue over, since I've seen many..."interesting" conversations. And he isn't "recruiting" me, since I was the one who was asking the question in the first place. I never saw him say anything about it until I was asking. I sure hope my ranking isn't changed to BZ2 player just because I'm trying to get a game working - I haven't even played an online game there in a long time. I am much more a BZ1 Stratter than a BZ2 Player. In my opinion, BZ1 beats BZ2 any day.

This totally blew everything out of the water for me.
You obviously haven't got a clue.
I haven't posted link for battlezone II download or mentioned it in the lobby.
Where i've given the battlezone 1 download link to bz2 people and its also on bz2maps...

I'm so trying to destroy with game.. (sarcasm)

Hyper's post is great, almost like I wrote it. All who are confused about the ranks should read my initial and Hyper's post again.

I would be proud if my rank on Bz2 forum was "Bz1 player" instead "Sabre" or whatever. I see "Sabre" as a punishment.

There's nothing wrong in playing Combat Commander, your rank won't get changed because of that. By playing it you are not destroying Bz1, you are only destroying yourself. BZ2 is for BZ1 players who don't do well in BZ1, who find it hard to do 2 things in the same time. I can see how having commander, or being one, can make things easier for them.

Helping Spl Eagles with Bz2 tech issues was nothing but a nice act, until it was brought here, in the wrong context. Next time don't debate my imaginary reasons. I made a lot of ranks-posts and none was about Spl Eagles.

Anyhow, if one's rank was "stratter" yesterday, "Bz2 player" today, tomorrow it may be "stratter" again. It's up to you, I just change it depending of your actions in the whole BZ world.

I'm not in entire agreement in your post, bz1 players and bz2 players play their games because they prefer them.

You seem to hate bz2 :/

I like both games, i have preferences for both for different aspects.

But i play bz1 waayyy more than i play bz2

"It's just a "correct" labeling. Dominant plays Bz2, so the rank of "Bz2 Player"

If this were true, you wouldn't see posts from dominant including messages like "But i play bz1 waayyy more than i play bz2" consistantly. He wants the BZ2 label revoked because it has an apparant stigma attached to it. I, myself, will remain nonchalant and couldn't give 2 hairs about a personal rank, I'm just calling as I see it, as usual

Assman likes more to strat than to hack. Should I change his rank to stratter?

HELL NAH!