Battlezone 1

Yeah... upon my second reading of my post, I must agree. That is probably because I am split on splinting... I see it as part of the game, but like many parts of the game, I see it as cheap sometimes, but useful at others... But overall... I guess I lean more towards just leaving splinting, because I happen to be a splinter, and upon the receiving end of splinting... I guess it's one of those things where if you use it you don't mind, but hate having it used against you.

Here's my opinion on splinting:

I have used splinter in strat but I far as I can recall, I haven't used it to demolish somebody's base in 1 minute flat. If I spawn in a BDog Grizzly, I toss the occasional splinter but it's usually at large groups of enemy units that are away from home or to force enemy scavengers to retreat. I use it to soften up targets and to help out the SPs.

When the splinter is used as a quick way to destroy a recycler, then it gets lame. I usually don't think much about one or two splinters falling but more than that falling on a base is kinda retarded in my opinion.

Determining when splinter is lame and when it's not, is like determining silly MAG safe area. Both is subjective, and therefore impossible for two (or more) players to agree on.

You can't use splinter the cool way and the lame way. You can just use it or not. And whatever you decide to do, it doesn't make you cool or lame.

Cerberus (NSDF) vs Toilet Paper (CCA)
Map: Canyon Madness
Settings: Barracks Off, Comsat off
Lives: 3
Sniper: On

I FINALLY got my BZ workin on my vista, so popped on the net to get some killin done between studying for my finals. Went into a DM to see how badly my dogfighting skills had declined, and died a horrible death many times to MAG madness. So I hopped into a strat, and just as I was about to leave, I see someone else hop into the room. The guy's name was Toilet Paper. I have NO idea who it is, and I still don't know, even after this battle. Ooook here we go.
So I deploy my rec, and say hello. He reciprocates and we start to chat during initial build-up, mostly bout dmers and MAG cannons. About 2 mins in, I get a radar contact, and decide to be stupid and investigate it. I already have a scout on my wing, so I figure I can PROBABLY take him. So I hoped lol. He must have seen me coming though, cuz on my map I see his dot goin the other way FAST. I figure he's a chicken and return to base, where I now have 6 scavs runnin around and 3 more razors sittin doin nothing. I have my rec build an MUF and deploy it, and pump out a few tanks. An armory and rig soon follow, and I head out towards the middle to set up an outpost. Along the way I take out a pair of navs, so he now knows where I am, but I figure I got enough units to hold him off. So I set up my outpost, and start gathering more scrap. After 5 tanks, I have no pilots, so I recycle my MUF and build a new one. 5 more pilots. Yay me. Another tank and 4 scavs follow. Recycle, rebuild, repeat. I also start to set up GTs near my outpost, then I drop a nav and head back to base. Meanwhile, my rig builds more GTs back at my main, and I still have NO sign of my opponent. Not even a stray radar signal.
About 3 mins later, I have a bunch of re-armed tanks and my scouts on hunt so I can get some intel. They wander round for a while, and then suddenly I lose one of them. But I got a look, and saw some solid red, which means buildings. However I know that there are GTs there, cuz my razor died REALLY fast. (Should be noted I still hadn't seen him and had to go to the menu to see what side he was). Dual blast gts. Always so annoying. So I get the 6 howies I had sitting around and head towards the upper zone behind his main. And to my complete surprise, I find the area empty. It was just a random gun tower and solar power plant. I am totally confused at this point, and that's when it starts to fall apart. Cuz my rec comes under attack. And then I see this mass of red near my main, in fact right behind it. I am too far away to do anything about it, so I rush back anyways, and try to move my rec out, and it seems it undeploys, then just sits there. I have no idea why (but found out later). So at this point, my rec is blown, but I manage to get my MUF and armory out. My rig was elsewhere, so it was safe (for the moment). However my outpost is then levelled by walkers from the south, and my scavs start being hunted by FIGHTERS of all things... ><. So I defend them, and only lose two, so I have 8 scavs left plus my tanks and 3 scouts. My armory is hidden on a geyser deep in the west, and my MUF is following me around. My rig is in the north bein guarded by two tanks and 6 howies, so it's moderately safe. Then I see that he kills off 4 of his own units. I figure he must be scrap-making but after killing off my base, he had plenty. Then I realize he was killing off his walkers cuz they were too slow. Next thing I know, my armory gets ganked (probably by bombers, judging by the rate of health loss). I rush over to my rig, but it's still safe, no red anywhere nearby. So I set up shop at that area and slowly rebuild. About 5 minutes later though, a team of fighters come knockin on my doors, and I run away, but instead of finding a safe exit, find 4 walkers in ambush. They got my tank and 3 others before blowing 4 of my scavs. And then they were out of ammo. ROFL. However my remaining tanks proceeded to waste their ammo killing off the walkers. I land and get into one of my tanks, and get my MUF and rig and RUN. Also get my last 4 scavs and order them to the middle of the map.
At this point I know I have already lost. Rather badly. He majorly outflanked me. Wasn't even funny. However I got SUPER lucky. I ran into an area with geysers, and found his Rec and Armory unguarded. So I drop a few GTs and run, but I leave a nav to see how much damage they do. But in the process of running, I ran into him (or I assume so, since the czar was toting double sp stabbers and shot off a few poppers). I got nova'd and then a popper killed me. Long story short, my rig, scavs, and MUF did not survive that. My howies were long dead. All I had were a pair of scouts. So I called one over, and got into it, and then flew around the map with the other one. Found his MUF, but also found 6 GTs (all with dual blasts). My wingman did not survive. My razor was brought down to 4 bars and I barely got away. After that, he spent about 10 minutes hunting me, and finally caught me back at my old base. I don't think a heavily damaged razor can beat 5 tanks lol. I got nova'd and then killed by a tank with blasts (not a human tank, figure he made it specifically for killing pilots being ejected). I respawn, and find myself lookin at a nav. So now he knows where I am. I start running, but he catches up to me a minute or two later, and kills me.
3 lives gone, and GG. I comfort myself with the fact that I am EXTREMELY rusty, and I got his rec and armory.
After that I asked him why my rec couldn't move and he said that he had a minelayer dropping MITS mines all around it while the howies were goin. He said he lost 3 layers, but he kept my rec stationary so they were well sacrificed. He also said he used a thumper minelayer to keep the GTs busy so his tanks could come in and take out the howies I had guarding my base. He also admitted to killing off his walkers so he could build bombers. In the end, I got outflanked, out-smarted, and out BZ'd. And I STILL have no idea who he is rofl. Anyways, was a fun game, despite me losing so badly.

Final Score:
Toilet Paper: Lives = 5, Kills = 42, Deaths = 18 <--- 4 of those were his walkers he executed
Cerberus: Lives = 0, Kills = 14, Deaths = 42

Wow, there's some pretty clever tactics in there. I would never have considered putting thumper on a minelayer.

the russian twins were playing on the bz lobby one day so i joined there strat game.
within 30 secs 20 czar tanks swarmed into my base and killed me and the 3 scavs i had built.
so sniped out 2 czars before they ran me over and proceded to go back and forth over the spawn site taking all my 5 lives. another dude joined the game and the same happened to him. we both left and created are own game to take revenge on the rushing twins. (biometal run)they join are game 4 mins latter after i set up my ultimate defense.(for some reason they think talking in half russian half english and using a number code to identify the 4 corners of the map is a secure form of communications. (they havent heard of private chat obvsely).
on the back end of my base were the geysers are i had set up 7 gun towers on the hill with several badger turrets in between them. built 5 grizzlys and waited. of cousre within 3 mins 7 czars come into radar range and attempt to take out my base but. they get wasted by my guntowers. but then wave after wave of czars kept comin 2 or 3 at atime slowly wereing down my defssnes. finally there was a break in the action i was able to reapir my tank after losing all my grizzlys and 1 guntower. then 20 czars come into radar range.
It was the Alamo. but meanwhile during all this the other dude who i had allyied with had built up an full assalut force augmented with 5 badgers and 5 howies. he ran into one of the twins base and destroyed his factory and reclyer. but by then i had lost the rest of my base and was fighting 15 czars by myself i killed 2 and ejected sniped 1 and got ran over repeatedly. but my side had won

Map: canyon madness
players: mac, daaren, tesla, and some other dude who joined for like 3 mins
well starting this game off i build up my base but to gun towers pointed towers the east set some badgers around by recleyer and proceed to go exploring. i sett up a silo near the middle of the map and run into about 20 scavengers roaming around there. half of them were macs the other half daaren. i blow up 1 or 2 just to piss them off when i spot daaren running around the middle in a stoli. i gathered up the 4 grizzles i had built by then a proceeded to chase after him. he lead me to macs base and then gets killed by a dual sp czar that appears out of no were. then mac comes out and proceeds to take out me and 2 of my grizzlies. i take him out and run back to my base. i build up 7 grizzlies and 2 more badgers and head the back way (around the perimeter of the map) to darren base but like most people he completely neglects to guard the back ways into his base. i take out his reclyer and constructor and run back to my base only losing 2 grizzlies. well now that he's crippled. he plays on for about 5 more mins before leaving. i take my girrlzes back to base recycling the baddly damaged ones and building new ones. then macs assault force appears on long range radar. and i meet him then the canyon with my gun towers in it. i we proceed tom have a large battle . i take out 3 of his bombers and 2 tanks . and he retreats to the open area on the other side of the canyon. i send out my scavs to collect the scrap and send a good job greeting to mac. then i spot him building a hanger and shooting my scavs but i notice about 5 or 6 bombers plus him. seeing this as my cue to get the hell out of dodge i pack up my entire base and move to the west geyser spot on the map leaving my gun towers to extract some revenge on him. i star scrapmaking because he now controls about 70% of the map and i am the only player left other than him. but then i spot some black scrap. thinking that black scrap isnt as bad a scrapmaking i proceed to use that glitch. i build up about 4 tanks and 3 bombers and was about to set up some gun towers when mac finally found me i rode forth to meet him on the field of battle i take out a couple of his units before i get ejected . i was head towards my reclyer so i called to my units to follow me back there. i take out 2 more of his units with the forces i have left and i snipe another before i get a double barrel sp in my face and die. i get sent to the esc menu and send him a gg. and tell him i thought it was hilarious that i just got up and moved my base before he could attack again.
i then left

game number 2
map: Valkyrie
players: hunan, a stuipd player, darkeness somthing, tesla, and some other dude

ok this game started out with hunan, a stuipd player, and me.
i start setting up my base. and about 2 mins in i get a message that my scavs are being aattacked. i sally forth with the 1 tank i had made so far. and kill a stuipd player in his czar. then about another 2 mins later i see him comeing again attacking me single handly. i kill him and ask why he's playing dm in a strat match. he starts yelling at me and i yell back. but hunan dieceds we should ally up against him so me do. i find several of a stuipd players scavs and 1 silo and blow hem up. he got pissed and started scrap making even though there was plently on scrap lieing around. i build up 10 grizzlies and hunan comes to my base with his force of czars and grendels. we go attack a stuipd player thinking to attack him for 2 directions at once. we though he was in the nw of the map but he was in the sw. hunans force was about 120 meters in front of mine when he runs right smack in the middle of 10 howies 10 guntowers and 10 golems. i attempt to help hunan escape but i lost all of my tanks. he manges to recover seral tanks and we both retreted back to my base. we both dieced to scrap. he settins up a supply and hanger a couple hunred metters from my base and sitting ther with his units. i dieced to build 10 apcs and i do but when i send my message to hunan that i ahd built up my army again. he left leving me alone to take out a stuipd player. tesla joined right about then and gumbeld sometinhg about ows there no scrap and starts to scrap make.
so in great Lone fox tradition i got the really long way to his base .

(hint for those of you that havent played out the map valkeyre. you spawn and were most people keep there reclyer has one 1 geyser the other 2 gesyers are about 200 meters towards the center othe map form that geyser. a suipd playe had sett up his base on the 2 in front of the spawn geyser.)

i roam the backlands of the map for 5 mins with the apcs in tow be fore i reach his spawn geyser were he had put about 10 silos and his armory. i run down the hill heading towards the other 2 geysers . and with a allah akbar sent my apcs to attack 1 of his walkers. i apcs get used a a meat shield for the rest of them. and all but 3 deploy there soilders. so theres now 24 soilders with mini guns walking around right next to his recleyer taking out his gun towers and golems. (but as you may know they dont shoot at soilder.) my tanks get wasted so i hid on the backside of this hill as my soilders slaughtered his base. his howies volley fired and took out half my soilders.

but in here lies a stuipd players mistake. he had built a bunch of howies in case i had done something like this but they were in the middle of his compound of guntowers and golems. as close as you can get them to each other. so as soon a soilder got near them the volley fired in a suicidal fashion straight up and blew them self to pieces. i laugh when i saw this and sent my 3 undeployed and not blow up apcs to attack is reclyer. by then nearly all my original soliders had gotten them selfs killed. when a stupid player finally enters the field of battle and get killed in half a sec. he hops over to his factory and build a minelyaer and hops in. i had taken out out his howies and gun towers and golems by then. and i was hiding on the back side top of a hill because the towers and golems may not shoot at the solders but they do shoot at the player when he's a pilot.

well he hops in the mine layer and charges the last 12 of my soilder the shoot at him and he drops a mine in the middle of them killing them all. he stops to survey the damage and i snipe him. i take his minelayer back to may base he catches up to me about half way theer in a czar. a blows me up. he fiques out were my reclyer is and tries to take it out single handly i built 3 scouts and hoped in 1 the turrets around my reclyer blow him up and he gets shot in the air by 1 of my scouts. i realized during the time of the great battle he had blowen up my factory and the turret i had down there. then i he sends 8 bombers to attack my reclyer. my scouts and i fought them off but one of them manged to get a rocket off a quarter sec before i kill it and destroys my reclyer. now darkness something joined and started talking about how there weren't any people playing bz2 right now but a bunch playing the orgianl. i laugh and explain to him that b2 sucks. and kick a stuipd player so he and telsa can play in peace. he leaves and says that he's bob not capt choes and leaves. i leave about 30 secs later after to talking to darkness. so i leave and seal off the game form everyone else.

Map: Biometal Run
Settings:
- 5 lives
- No snipe (I never checked but GentlemanSK complained)
- Barracks and Comsat

---Players---
xGurenx (CCA)
Volksman (CCA)
meatball (NSDF)
Belepa Mulep (NSDF)(late)
F__kface (NSDF)(late)
GentlemanSK (NSDF)(late)

I spawned in as a Czar and the first order of business was to build a silo and put two scavs to work.

Scav
Constructor
Silo
Scav

I then undeployed my Recycler and moved it towards the center. I would be the one who held the center for most of the game.

Once I deployed the Recycler, I needed two Golems and two Gun Towers ASAP as the two other players began to attack one another. Once the basic defenses were in place, I sent out a hunting squad (Grendel-Stoli) to scout around while I built armory, Czars, upgraded my Czar with dual Sp and a mortar (wonderful against APC pilots and players on foot), SOPPORT facilities, and expanded to the center.

Belepa Mulep, a scrapmaker, joined the game. He was able to build a couple units before Volkman and his 10 Grendels chased him out of his own base. Belepa ran to the center, but I had two Golems and several Czars holding the field, so "he dun run off." Volkman's Grendels attacked but he had a tough time because most of the Czars were following scavs and the bombers went for me first. Lots of lulz was had.

Volk, seeming to have a vendetta against me for obliterating his attack force with no losses, attacked my Rec. He almost destroyed it as my Gun Tower did no damage against him. The only way to damage him was to fire ahead of him and deliberately miss. I saved my rec and caked his Czar. I found Volk and baked him with a mortar. He left the game. The meatball left the game as well.

I'm now so full of scrap, I need to spend in order to keep the scavs moving.

I find Belepa, but by the time I get there, he starts to scrapmake. I dig in at his entrance. I bring in 6 Czars, Constructor, 4 Golems, 4 Howies, and a minelayer. Scavs stayed back near the rec as there was still scrap to be picked up. I built SOPPORT facilities and Gun Towers and I began to shell his base (it was full of mines btw) and drop an occasional Day Wrecker.

He had 10 APCs, 10 Scavs, and 10 minelayers. Some strategy huh? The explosions caked alot of stuff. I was close enough to constrain him inside his own base.

During the Siege, F__kface joined as a Bobcat (type was either Normal or BDog as he was using Hornets). I made the decision to send a couple tanks and two Golems back to base to help fortify my base in case he decided to attack. F__kface destroyed my supply line, but I managed to repair it and chase him down and end his little campaign against my forces.

In the short amount of time of hunting down F__kface and forcing him to quit, Belepa attacked my siege force. He lost more than I lost in units, but I lost my Constructor, minelayer, tanks, and Golems.

GentlemanSK joined and I finally decided to retreat from Belepa's base as my supply lines where under attack again. When I left, Belepa rebuilt in the same manner all scrapmakers do.

GentlemanSK took very little damage per SP hit and was difficult to keep up with. I eventually repaired the supplylines and I baked GentlemanSK 5 times.

After he was neutralized, I was going to begin the Second Siege but I had to leave.

GG All!

Series of battles on Mars with Sk-8080



Very GG's!

I remember when I could beat Sk...It doesn't help that I haven't played consistently since school started

Great Story Guren X!
Great vid HF!
And hope to have another match with you Eagle =P

Map: Screwwwed
Settings:
- 2 lives
- Barracks

---Players---
xGurenx (NSDF)
Lemmy (CCA)

I spawned in as a BDog Grizzly and kinda counting on the fact that Lemmy might be Capt. Choes... Once I set up the Recycler, I built two scavs and a Factory. By now I started to hate the map as it was too big with very little scrap as Lemmy had started early.

I decided on my Bomber Flood strategy. It worked for early on in the match.

I got into a few dogfights and I managed to splint two or three of his wingmen before I had to withdraw.

After losing scavs, he counterattacked and got to my base... Instead of Gun Towers, I had two Sasquatches and 3 aggressive Bobcats waiting for him. He got ejected onto the mountain behind my factory... He caused a ruckus and sniped two of my Bobcats before trying to get down and was promptly annihilated by my Walkers.

2-1 My Favor.

I began to make a siege of his base. I saw couple of his units died at his hands... ???

Once my shells started hitting his base, he rushed my howies, but he smacked into my triple-power-triple-tower combo. More scrap for me.

I neglected to put adequate defenses for my Rec and Fac (armory wasn't used), and as a result he destroyed them...

No matter! The war isn't over yet! I went to copy the same... While trying to finish his rec, I sniped one of his bombers and attempted to finish but... squish.wav...

1-1 His Advantage.

I SHALL DEFEAT HIM!!!!

I used APC... worked for a few minutes.
I used Hornets... A dogfight started and I lost...

As I came down, he saw me... That moment in Bz Strat that you know it's the end...

I pulled out my sniper rifle...
He closes...
BOOM! *miss*
He starts to fire...
BOOM! *miss*
ATs are wizzing over my head...
BOOM!

To be continued...

DAMN YOOUUU!!

BOOM! *squish.wav*
Umph!
"Am I alive?"

I found myself on the ground while his Czar grinded to a halt.

1-0 My win.

Lemmy said, "Nice shot!" and I said, "Thx." We both said GG.

At the end, I had 3 Sasquatches, 1 Bobcat, 2 Howies, 4 Scavengers, a Constructor, and an assortment of various buildings and I was full on scrap.

GG!

This is about 2 strat games i had on Foothills, I chose foothills because it had 888 scrap.

I finally learned to use the over 10 scavenger tactic to a great advantage, after one of the most epic strat battles I have ever had. After testing it and realizing it still worked in 1.5, but was much harder to do, i came back to 1.4 with newfound scav creating skills, after making about 40 in 1.5. I started a strat and 3 ppl joined, and 1 of them started making scrap, and i asked if it was allowed and someone said no, so i carried on using all my scrap to create scavs until i had about 60-70, and over time 2 ppl disconnected/left so only 1 was left, this guy was a good stratter so it was a perfect way to test my new unbeatable strategy, after a long and arduous battle, and me mostly trying to create more scavs than he could destroy and protect my rec with a scav shield, he finally resorted to using comets to destroy my scavs, and i lost vast numbers, and had already died 2 or 3 times from my scavs. i had fraps so i was actually recording a bit of it near the end for the hell of it, but i found it difficult to function with 30 fps. i just wanted to get some of the scav making action in case someone went accusing me of hacking or some s*** in that game, which happen4d yesterday.

this is near the end of the first game, quite a crap video, most of my scavs were already blown up at this point and i was losing them fast. IDK why but the sound always goes messed up when i have many scavs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeWGvsp48M8



anyway after that, we talked abit and i basically said my strategy would be perfect if combined with another strategy, in other words not relying solely on scavs, but he wasnt convinced it was a good strategy, and even agreed that he wouldnt use comets in the next game.

we started up a new game with 5 lives, i scouted the whole map at the very start for my scavs, and he attacked with countless APCs early into the game and throughout the whole game which was very troublesome, i had to get in my tank and kill the pilots or they would continue to harass my scav swarm, eventually i lost most my scavs and had only about 15-20 while i was being overrun by apcs and tanks. i thought i was going to die. i had a huge excess of scrap from my scavs so i decided to retaliate and drove his forces back, at the end of the previous game i realized i could select my selectable scavs menu to rapidly locate selectable scavs to pick me up to create more of them very quickly, so i could do it much faster this time(almost as fast as constantly building them if im lucky), while during this whole game it was an epic struggle for control, i was building scavs whenever not being attacked, and quickly jumping in my tank and defending my base and attacking his outpost whenever i was attacked, i was really going HARDOUT this time, because i wanted to prove that it was the best strategy, because it wont exist anymore in 1.5. near the end i was building scavs continually at a very fast pace and had an army of tanks and had capped my scrap, so i built 2 more silo's, kept building more offensive units and scavs, and had a huge pile of pups in my base from excess scrap and had spare weapons and 1 or 2 of my tanks had my sp mag mortar on them and they were actually using them but shooting into the sky (mortar) because scav pilots entered them and started driving around and i lost track of them and had to make a sp mag mortar tank for myself each time whenever i needed 1(like the scrap mattered anyway), until he attacked again and this time i got into 1 of my scav-stolen tanks immediately, raided his outpost with my army of tanks destroying most of it while my scavenger swarm poured out my base towards all the scrap that was being created, i always heard no scrap on radar during the whole game because my scavs constantly calculated that they would take all the scrap on the map in 1 go, and a lot of my scavs were sitting at base as reserve or trying to get in and out my base blocking the entrance and smashing into attackers, so i didnt need any rec defense. after this crucial point i destroyed his army with my tanks and his outpost fell apart after much fighting, and then he left shortly after when i went back to base to build more scavs, IDK what he said, but the last thing he said was cya, i was too busy concentrating on making scavs to see what he said before that, if anything. the best part of this strategy is it steals all your opponents scrap, and wastes their ammo(from them trying to kill your scavs) and gives you an unlimited supply of scrap. they have to either kill some of your scavs and have no ammo left to fight, or let the scavs steal all the scrap. so the only weakness of this strategy is them building supplies and strategically placed gun towers to kill your scavs on a mass scale, or using comets to blow up 10 at a time, but even those can be countered by this strategy.

anyway i thought i would share this epic battle, since Spock always told me to post a warstory long ago, and this one was perfect. unlike the previous game, i only died once this time, when i got ejected in a dogfight and he was on red hull, i tried to destroy his ship from mid air with plasma while he was firing MDMs at me and i blew up his ship which detonated the last mdm and i died. plasma and mdm f*** own. this second strat was truly nothing like the first battle, it lasted a very long time and i lost track of time, it was like i was inside the game. idk how long it was but it was f*** EPIC, and the most fun i have had in bz since coming back, and this was the first time i used the scav swarm strategy almost flawlessly.

It's too bad i didn't record some of the second game with fraps, but i probably would have lost if I did, not that I'd be able to capture the crucial and epic parts though, there was so much action and so many hardout battles in that game it was unbelievable.

anyway GG and I'd like a rematch sometime . crazy strategies are always the most fun to use for me, win or lose, and this strategy unfortunately won't exist in 1.5, it'll be too slow and quite worthless, but i'd have to see if it could still be used if practiced there . its probably only good on Theater and Foothills anyway. I wish i had a fast computer so i could just record s*** instead of needing to type it all out.