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PostPosted: June 1st, 2008, 11:10 am 

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BB1 wrote:
Funny, I starved him on compass really early with his constructor dead, and GTed the scrap. He was reduced to making razors, and soon he was trecking around the map and I was dropping day wreckers all over to shake his little boots :ph34r:

That probably caused him to rethink his "underestimation" plight ;)


JonBlund wrote:
Didn't you leave a game on Corner Pocket because you were about to be blown outta your socks? I did not know any BB1 from gameplay. You could be a kid. You said you barely knew The Compass and I gave you "buildtime".

Obviously you're old enough for a real game. Go get that videocard working B)


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Mr. Spock wrote:
Yesterday I played 3 games with Jon.

In first game on Corner Pocket we were just fooling around and measuring the time needed for the quickest win. I think we set a record, but I forgot to stop the stop-watch on time. We'll do it next time... ;)

I was the closest to win in a second game on Citadels. He attacked my base with howies and then with lot of offensive units. He lost everything, but he was very close to kill my rec... Unfortunately, he remained out of ammo.
It was a good try, so I felt sorry for him and cleared the path to my rec for his 2nd try, which was successful. :D

In 3rd game on Compass he wasn't able to kill my rec with bunch of bombers, so I helped him to do that by shooting with dual SP's on my rec together with him.
When he got airborne I let him to snipe me and take my tank for a ride home. B)

I know him for a few months, he's a very nice guy, and I help him whenever I can.


Ulfsaar wrote:
Mr. Spock wrote:

It was a good try, so I felt sorry for him and cleared the path to my rec for his 2nd try, which was successful. :D

In 3rd game on Compass he wasn't able to kill my rec with bunch of bombers, so I helped him to do that by shooting with dual SP's on my rec together with him.
When he got airborne I let him to snipe me and take my tank for a ride home. B)

I know him for a few months, he's a very nice guy, and I help him whenever I can.

lol Spock. g1

Ulfsaar


Pvt Noonee wrote:
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I know him for a few months, he's a very nice guy, and I help him whenever I can.

You don't sound very 'normal' Spock - why would you do all that?


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JonBlund wrote:
GG's Spock. And thanks for help (mistakes) especially the second game lol. That attack became a disaster. I had enough scrap and could rebuild offensive units to keep up the pressure.

On Compass I was sure I would be able to take out your rec first attempt. I dunno if you or your AI had me targeted, but suddenly I was blown out of my tank. A moment later I had lost all my AI as well. When I came back in a new tank your rec was "only" in yellow. I had to take it out myself. And yes it's easy to hit your own rec when chasing the opponent.
That snipe was pretty funny btw, well, on my screen hehe.

The game on Corners was a quickie yeah. You were as greedy as me but I was first :)
Btw both Dredd and BUM died on Corners too yesterday. And Shogun on Citadels sunday. Those newbies seem out of practice.


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PostPosted: June 1st, 2008, 11:12 am 

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Mr. Spock wrote:
@Noonee - When a man plays BZ every day and every night, for a long time, and he's constantly losing from someone, he got to start showing some sings of stupidity... :blink:

@Ulfsaar - Thx, games with Jon sometimes really end more as a F(un)G's, than as a GG's.

When I play against him I get a feeling like I'm in the school again, and I'm being questioned by the strictest professor.
My hands are sweating, I got everything mixed up, I'm giving the wrong answers even though I know the right ones and so on...

In games I'm hitting the wrong keys constantly, I'm building 2nd hangar instead of supply, I keep forgeting about my scavs whereabouts, I rushed on a sniper even though I have mortars…

I get a feeling that Jon is always one step ahead of me, like he's reading my thoughts; I build a howie, his howie is already shooting at mine, I build a gun tower, my s-power is already destroyed...
I really need more tough games in my fingers, he's too experienced.

Reading what I wrote can sound really funny for someone who doesn't know Jon and what he's capable, but that's what really happened. :(

I know that you're DMer, but when are you going to show up in a strat game and eventually post here?


@Jon – Corner Pocket is a tricky one. If both players decide to start picking scrap from the same side, usually, better one wins. If they choose the opposite scrap field everything is possible. It would be easier to know where will you go first, but then again, you always change that…

On Citadels, when you lost everything I really thought I had you. I started to rebuild my forces and at one point I had all I needed (10 offensive and 5 defensive units, 5 utilities, a gun tower, a lot of scrap…), but I simply couldn't move from the corner you put me in.
Your one howie was doing a lot of damage to me, I couldn't reach him with mine, so I decided to do the dirty work by myself… what a mistake… it seems like you just waited for me to do that… I told all my units to defend rec but it was too late… if only my constructor survived I would have a chance, but without them both against you…

On Compass I didn't notice that my rec lost that much blood in the first fight… I saw you coming back, but you were alone and I thought that you're gonna turn around, but you didn't.
There wasn't time to target you or tell my units to attack you. I started chasing you around my rec and even though in the army I was a good shooter, in the game I managed to hit my rec more times than I hit you. :huh:

And btw, I know that you can't constantly write about your wins here, but I would realy like to hear how Bum, Shogun and guys like them are losing, and I think I'm not the only one...


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Mr. Spock wrote:
And btw, I know that you can't constantly write about your wins here, but I would realy like to hear how Bum, Shogun and guys like them are losing, and I think I'm not the only one...

Ok - I think I've got it now...

Hmm...what is the Norwegian word for hubris? <_< :P


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JonBlund wrote:
Yeah can be quite frustrating Spock.
But I think it's amazing that you (and your brother) have such good basic understanding of Bz strategy. After all you have mainly been playing eachother on LAN.

I myself have been playing many players from all over the world online since '99. That makes a huge difference! There was some real tough competition going on 24 hours a day, several years.

Later when there were less players to play from europe, I got to play some of the best players in the US. I had to stay up at night to be able to play players like The Wall, Shogun, Dredd and a few more. Against them it was easy to feel like you discribe. Strategy takes time to learn.

About Corner Pocket: Long ago Dredd made us all aware of how people tend to start on his fav map. "Nearly everybody has that natural pull to the left" he said once. That was a good observation.
If you can't beat an opponents DM you'll have to play less risky and concentrate on only 1 side and defend the scrap there.

The topplayers you mentioned are out of practice. When we get to play some more I come bragg or cry about it here B)


Noonee whats a Hubris? :huh:


Ulfsaar wrote:
JonBlund wrote:
Noonee whats a Hubris? :huh:

Good question. I speek english as my first language, and i dont know. ;) :o


Ulfsaar


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Noonee whats a Hubris?


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Good question. I speek english as my first language, and i dont know.


My pocket dictionary doesn't have it, so I can't post a definitive definition, but it's an old Greek word meaning err...like 'swelled pride' or something like that.

I hasten to add this was meant as joke - Jon definately doesn't have 'hubris'.

BTW JonBlund - did you ever play a guy called 'Tim' the original' back in those days?

Wall definately, and maybe Shogun, would remember him, maybe Dredd too if he was in at the start.


JonBlund wrote:
Wikipedia has it. Didn't sound cool :unsure: Imagined it was a joke.

Tim? uhm, BUM used to use an alias tim, timmy and such names. But I do not remember "Tim the original".

Anyway BUM was funny there. You kinda gotta underestimate when playing a "timmy" lol. I remember being blasted and blown off the map by quite some timmy's, sandra's and peters'. "Newbie" is another nick you gotta be careful with. Rofl...


Ulfsaar wrote:
lol. i once met a 'big tim', dont know if its the same. Also, i met a 'dont hurt me' or something like that. ;)

Ulfsaar


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Pvt Noonee wrote:
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Wikipedia has it. Didn't sound cool Imagined it was a joke.


Thanks.

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Tim? uhm, BUM used to use an alias tim, timmy and such names. But I do not remember "Tim the original".


He, he - OK, so the answer is no.

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Anyway BUM was funny there. You kinda gotta underestimate when playing a "timmy" lol. I remember being blasted and blown off the map by quite some timmy's, sandra's and peters'. "Newbie" is another nick you gotta be careful with. Rofl...


Well, I have to admit this was probablly pre-1999 - Tim took the Acti-message board by storm - declared himself 'the one to beat'and everyone who took up his challenge ended up having to post his defeat at his hands on the board (the rule was - loser posts)

He garnered supporters and distracters in seemingly equal numbers with much heated emotion - there was a moment when even the real police were called in to sort out a situation (Wall will remember it)

I remember a player who defeated me in a strat game on lives - but with whom I had one of my best strat games of my BZ life (in other words a really good player)

He saw Tim's challenge on the Acti-board and took it up.

Next thing I see is him posting, with much bitterness, his defeat at the hands of Tim.

Tim wrote his reply to the guy, and at the end of his post, I'll never forget what Tim wrote...

He wrote (to this A+1 competent strat player) ..."I defeated you in a Capitan, and I will continue to defeat you in a Capitan."

Tim had played this strat knight in a Capitan - just to make it interesting for himself!


Gaunt wrote:
~NoJ~ Prvt Noonee wrote:
there was a moment when even the real police were called in to sort out a situation (Wall will remember it)

Sounds like a piece of BZ history we should know about - what happened ?


Pvt Noonee wrote:
Err...well, there was this whole history of animosity between Tim and Alessandra...

In the heat of exchanges between the two of them, a lurker piped in (a Tim supporter) with a rather threatening sounding message against Alessandra.

A debate ensued about wether this was really threatening or not, but Alessandra didn't join in, she just called the police...

Result was that police traced the guy and Alessandra posted his name and address on the message board...

As one regular (Richard) posted :- "She shoots - she scores!"


Mr. Spock wrote:
This Tim sounds like a real hubris... Maybe he was one of the BZ developers...


Pvt Noonee wrote:
]No, no he wasn't...

He was a huge critic of the development...

But one very wise visitor pinned him down - maybe Tim worked in security software for financial institutions.

The point is we never posted about our real-time lives...

One guy admitted he was a lawyer - that was about it.


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PostPosted: June 1st, 2008, 11:14 am 

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JonBlund wrote:
I got my rematch on Compass vs Hal 9000 yesterday. He got blown out of his tank in his own minefield quite early in game. This detonated several of his own mines and he got killed. I used the opportunity to take out most of his base while he had to walk back. Instead of stretching this out we started a rematch for Hal. It was night already and we agreed that amount of kills would decide if the game wasn't over 3 AM.

With last game in mind I used my howies differently this time. That resulted in Hal losing his rec. But the howies were taken out before they could do more damage.
Hal has become too good with AI and it's not easy to get close to his base when he's there. I was unable to take out more of his production units.
Backed up in a corner, without recycler, Hal knew his only chance was being more offensive.

He moved forward with his offensive units. I was unable to remove him when he built an outpost. He got howies into position while he took out mine. He DM'ed as if this was about something more than just a game. I tried taking out his constructor but got blown up by him and/or his tanks several times. His howies were now in reach of my recycler and I decidet to retreat to my spawnpoint before it was too late. I got established there and now the fight was about the GT's and other stuff I had left behind. I believe we shared the scrap but I could not do anything against him moving up there with fac, arm and howies. He moved his stuff into that corner and my rec was once more in reach of howies.

I tried about everything I could think of but Hal did not get sleepy this night either. I moved up in the hills and got established a base there. I had 10 offensive units and scrap and tried deploying my recycler and factory when I needet reinforcements. He remindet me about the time-agreement. He had most kills and it was close to 4 AM :blink: But damn I rather die than give up :angry: It finally came to a furious battle at my spawn. A lot of tanks were killed on both sides and I deployed my rec again in the middle of a huge scrappile hoping it was mine. It was not. Hal had rebuilt tanks as quick as he had lost them. 2 min later he was back with a new pack and I lost my recycler while I was rebuilding factory.....

I managed a while with a stolen tank, armory, constructor, 2 scavs, supplies and GT's. But this was Hals game from the moment he lost his recycler :ph34r: Very GG!


jaestar3000 wrote:
wow, that's the second story about Hal dominating after losing his Rec. it's all about the scrap.


Mr. Spock wrote:
jaestar3000 wrote:
it's all about the scrap.

Watch out, Dx. might hear you... :D

Dx. wrote:
I never said i don't like scrap, i just don't like the idea of people focusing on attacking scavy's and calling that Real Strategy.


I don't know what's happening with that HAL. Not so long ago my score with him was 50:50. In last 2 weeks I lost 10 games in a row... It's really funny being beaten by a little brother so many times...

I was thinking that my gaming got worse, but as I see here, he has taken a few JB's scalps as well, so it's not just me.

I think I'm gonna test him on drugs... :P


BB1 wrote:
Those mines REALLY need to be fixed. Maybe being right on top of them or very close to them sets them off with a small detonation area so they don't set off the whole field.


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jaestar3000 wrote:
Mr. Spock wrote:
I think I'm gonna test him on drugs... :P

LOL. should we call the Olympic committee?

I'm starting to get that action too. Ben-jamming is now overwhelming me in DM, mostly sniping. I should have never given him my super duper input.map. he won't play strat against me anymore though, which is sad.


HAL 9000 wrote:
Lol jaestar, all tests came out negative. Yeah, scrap is very important but so is recycler. I couldn't believe how I played differently without it. I had to become more offensive and not let Jon get close to my constructor and my scavs. Only my offensive playing saved me. I now have 4 wins against Jon, and only 50 losses. :rolleyes:

But don't think that rec is not important. It very much is, especially at the beginning of the game. For example, I played 3 games with a guy named Cooler yesterday. None of them was a GG and I shouldn't write about them in this topic but I really don't wanna open another topic...

I lost the first two games quite early. He attacked me in both games after a few minutes of playing with a dual sp's black dog grizzly. I was in a stock grizzly both times, so he easily killed me and he also took out my rec. My mistake, I should have been prepared for that. There was no come back after that. It was over without rec so early in the game, so you see here how rec can be important.

He tried the same thing in the third game, but this time I was ready for him. I had a sp-stabbers when he came. After I got him airborne I saw that his rec is undefended, so I thought I should give him a little of his recipe and take out his rec. He didn't like that very much. He spent the rest of the game trying to kill my rec singlehandedly, but after he has lost his 5th tank to my defense he said that I am cheating and he kicked me out of the game. :huh: There's a guy who really knows how to take a loss. So people watch out when you play against Cooler. Defend your rec and try not to beat him. :P

HAL


jaestar3000 wrote:
HAL 9000 wrote:
Defend your rec and try not to beat him. :P

HAL

:lol:

that's sad to hear. he's a pretty fair DMer. I hate to hear when people are bad sports.

@ losing recycler
I think most people change playing style when they lose the rec, like, "I've lost it already might as well see how long I can last." sort of a nothing to lose attitude. sometimes those are the most fun because the internal pressure is off.


JonBlund wrote:
Cooler = Westpac_79. He was the guy all strat newbies feared back in '99. Game is over when his chances to win get small. He can quit or kick you but is quick to make a new game and have another try. I must have played him a few hundred games. It took time before I got to know him. We've had quite some good talks together. He's a good player and can beat me any given game. His playingstyle is what many would call rough. He can't hide behind alias for me. I know it's him when I see him drive his tank lol. He does not attempt being a nice guy. He's just West and I thank him for all of the action through the years. I recommend him if you want to learn to play strat without recycler.

Else I can confirm that DD40 is back! I said thanks and kicked his butt twice yesterday. Second game got tricky. After being sniped twice I could easily have lost it, even when he did not have anything left. Welcome back and try to get Dotham to play teamgames again. Those were always great games..


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JonBlund wrote:
Tuffkix wrote:
Jon, have you and your AI done anything to promote Battlezone among people?

If so, why are you such a jerk among the gaming community.

I used to see you as a nice person, a high-end stratter, and a bz friend, but I think

all that has gone down the drain. :(

You got killed and respawned in the middle of attacking AI. Don't you think you were going to die anyway? I'll go easier on you next game. Kinda thought you were "tuffer" than this. Hope you get over it..


Tuffkix wrote:
Jon...that was over a different topic smart one...

I actually had fun in that 5 minute game I played...but I feel I might have done better if I was getting the 600fps I get on my main PC than on the 15 FPS I get on this one :(


Pvt Noonee wrote:
Tuffkix wrote:
I actually had fun in that 5 minute game I played...but I feel I might have done better if I was getting the 600fps I get on my main PC than on the 15 FPS I get on this one :(

Know how you feel


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HAL 9000 wrote:
I know Noonee likes to read this topic so here are two warstories for him. Probably the last ones this year...

First one was played a few days ago on Canyon Madness. It was ffa and I was up against JonBlund, NoJ Fred and someone I will just call Polly. I am sure you all know Jon and Fred by now...I am not sure if Polly wants his real name to be reveled, so I will just say he is great guy who played a lot of strat before but now just mourns about good all times... :P

I established my base at center south geyser from where I planned and executed my great attacks, or should I say, from where I cowardly deathmatched scavengers. But soon real action began. Jon and Polly were fighting on center west geyser and there were losses on both sides. Nobody invited me but I decided to join that fight. I still can't tell what exactly happened but it seemed that Jon had a base up there, so hit by two sides he started retreating. He left a lot of scrap behind which mostly I collected. Polly and Jon continued fighting. In the meantime Fred was busy sniping my units back home. But unfortunately for Fred I had a barracks there so every time he sniped a pilot a new one just hoped out. Fred is still just learning how to play strat but with little help he will be a good strater. I now turned my attention to east where Fred was. He was closest to me so I had to attack him. But just as I was making some progress Jon came from somwhere and started attacking him too. Fred was quickly overrun and lost everything, so Jon and I were now fighting for that scrap, until Fred lost all of his lifes and left. I guess Polly has also lost everything cos he was in a tank with no ammo and sniping a lot. But it was his snipe that decided the game. He sniped Jon and that was opportunity I have been waiting. I attacked Jon's base while he was not there and I succeeded. He came back to late. I had everything now, a lot of units, a lot of scrap and I just needed to finish the game. But this guys wouldn't give up. They had only their sniper rifles and caused a lot of problems to me. I never did like this part of game when I have to chase human pilots down. You hear me Jon? :D I managed to kill Polly but Jon killed me, so at the end I lost it. But fun game it was...

The second game was played yesterday on Ice Ice Baby with Jon and T-34. You know it can't be easy with this two guys in the same game. T quickly built an outpost just outside my base. He also had howies firing on me. I deathmatched very good yesterday but you never know if it is just you, or it is bad connection that is helping you. Anyway, I got T airborne and I moved forward to attack his outpost. I did some damage but I had to pull back cos Jon's howies were now firing on my outpost. While I was dealing with Jon's attack, T managed to recover and come back to harass me. They two together destroyed a lot of my things so I had to pull back all the way to my recycler. Bad situation that was... :blink: But now there was a lot of scrap just in front of my base. The only thing that saved me is that they both wanted that scrap so they were busy fighting each other and forgot about me. I collected a lot of it and came back out even stronger than before. I pushed T all the way back to his home cos he was also now being attacked by Jon. Soon, T was just sniping and Jon took out his last life shortly after. But from that point it all went bad on me. I have to be very inspired to effectively attack and eliminate Jon. Yesterday, I was not. I attacked unorganized and I was just losing my units and giving him scrap. It didn't take him long to remove me. Step by step he was moving closer to my base, and soon it was all over.

We had a lot of fun... B)

HAL


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Thanks HAL!!

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They had only their sniper rifles and caused a lot of problems to me. I never did like this part of game when I have to chase human pilots down. You hear me Jon? I managed to kill Polly but Jon killed me, so at the end I lost it.


Astonishing!

And thanks Yenraven too...

See - life doesn't do 'random'.

(And when there is no discernible pattern - that's only 'psuedo-random'.) :P


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JonBlund wrote:
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They had only their sniper rifles and caused a lot of problems to me.

You have started to pay back I noticed. I remember a game recently where you sniped me 3 times. My 4th and last live I lost when I drove on a huge pie, well placed by a minelayer. Stupid AI rofl! Game over :ph34r:

Sniping adds a good deal of stress to strategy. It may cause a heart attack one day as some of us now are 40-50 years old :( I mean, playing well and have a good chance to beat a tough, mean opponent, and then DANG! Hear that awfull last breath, ARGHH... And as you respawn you and all others in game may get to see the sad news on video.. You know it can turn the games direction completely. Brutal., shocking, mean.... B)

Tonight it was Shoguns turn. The game was too fast to remember all details. We both lost a lot of units in an early battle. All effort was about stopping eachother from getting the scrap, getting most of it ourselves. Shogun was far ahead of me here. While I was blown up once again I saw his recycler move close to the scrappile. I realized that his silo and constructor, which I finally managed to take out, had been a waste of time and effort. I even had lost 1 or 2 lives in this struggle.
After another pilotflight down to Mars I finally got in a snipe on him. I didn't have time to get exited. I hurried for a new tank + SP's as fast as I could..

His recycler was the main target, we both knew that. We both had to get there first. It was Shogun who got back a second too late.. While I was blown out of my tank by him and his AI, I saw his recycler explode.
That tiny little second could now turn the whole game in my favour. But I wasn't sure before the other player in game, Neighborbones, smelled blood and got involved too. The situation got nearly impossible to deal with without recycler, even for Shogun.. In order to get most of the scrap, he had taken the risk and put himself between two enemies.
A perfect opportunity to win a war in the canyons of madness was killed by a sniper bullit, once again.....


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Mr. Spock wrote:
Canyon Madness. HAL 9000 and Launchalot vs. Warchild and me. Very laggy, but equally for everyone...
I was setup on center E, Warchild was south. I don't know where Launchalot base was cos I was busy moving my howies into position to eliminate gun towers, silo, supply and hangar in front of HAL's base on the W center.

It was madness... When I managed to make some progress and destroy a few HAL's facilities, Launch would came and destroy my defense... So I had to build everything all over again...
Thrill was close to me, and that was good, cos we were able to double pressure HAL a few times and finally destroy his outpost. B)

Launch, although he hasn't played a strat for a long time, was pretty good. After all, he's a very good DMer. His only mistake was that he was letting his scavs to pick up 'my' scrap to often, without his protection... I collected pretty bad at the beginning (I think that my scavs dropped scrap a few times in Thrill's silo), but after a few battles a had a huge army...

We started with 3 lives. I killed Warchild twice. Yes, me. :blink: Once mine minelayer crushed him, and once my howies. Sorry again, Warchild.
But, like Warchild said, it doesn't matter, it was a team strat and we had a plan. I had to keep HAL busy and he had to sneak behind his back... mission successful. Warchild managed to take out HAL's rec.
So Launch moved his rec where HAL's rec was, to pick up a lot of scrap that was there...
To tell you the truth, I didn't even notice that HAL doesn't have his rec. He was playing like everything is normal...

Eventually Warchild lost his last life (it wasn't me this time :P ), but not before he took HAL's armory. Then I noticed that Launchalot has 1 life left, and HAL and I were still on 3. I remember killing Launch once, but I don't know how he lost his second life...

It was hard, Launch had a lot of scavangers (which were almost impossible to kill) and HAL, well, you know HAL without recycle...
They were pushing me more and more... At one moment I was on just 3 tanks left... but scrap in front of my base was decisional, I managed to recover and took Launch' last life...
The rest was easy, thanks to Warchild. ;)

GG guys


Tuffkix wrote:
I had a good game yesterday, team strat, Me and Bumoutlaw vs lil stealth and Hal9000

We got our butt's kicked



Pvt Noonee wrote:
Great war story Spock - must be at least the 3rd time I've read it.


Mr. Spock wrote:
Thanks Noonee, I hope you were not doing that cos of my english... :P

Tuffkix, give us some more details...



Pvt Noonee wrote:
Mr. Spock wrote:
Thanks Noonee, I hope you were not doing that cos of my english... :P


Nargh! He,he...English just perfect!

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We started with 3 lives. I killed Warchild twice. Yes, me. Once mine minelayer crushed him, and once my howies. Sorry again, Warchild.


LOL!! :D

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Tuffkix Posted on Jan 16 2007, 04:20 PM

I had a good game yesterday, team strat, Me and Bumoutlaw vs lil stealth and Hal9000

We got our butt's kicked



Whaaaat ddid you expecccct! hhhaha


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PostPosted: June 1st, 2008, 11:22 am 

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Pvt Noonee wrote:
JonBlund wrote:

Tonight it was Shoguns turn.

(snip)

The situation got nearly impossible to deal with without recycler, even for Shogun.. In order to get most of the scrap, he had taken the risk and put himself between two enemies.
A perfect opportunity to win a war in the canyons of madness was killed by a sniper bullit, once again.....

Jon, I don't even want to ask about that new sig you've got...

But it's good to read it again that Shogun went down.


JonBlund wrote:
Sig?, you mean that avatar I had about earth being sucked up? That 1 was actually meant for the "basesitter" topic a few weeks ago.

Always good to see Shogun go down btw :lol:

Spock, I cant promise anything about a quick return. Right now I enjoy feel myself better day time, and especially at work. It comes to a point when too little sleep gets risky. Greet Hal.

I while back I played tuff&Bum in a 2 vs me. The deal was that the loser(s) had to report the game here. I dont see them. I beat the crap out of them. Just so you all know ;)


Pvt Noonee wrote:
Yes, yes...I meant avatar , not sig!!! Sorry. (It was still a killer tho' - I mean even God the Father?!!).

Although I still say - bring back the machine-guning caT!

Well anyway whatever forum it was meant for, the point is, is that Shogun went down and thats music!! (Shogun is AOK, BTW - the problem is he's just very good)

I remember on the old Acti board that the culture was that the loser posts.

How many bitter posts I read by losers to our resident strat king I cant rememeber.

But I do remember one experienced strat player posting his recrimination of how he'd been treated, and getting this reply:

"I beat you in a Capitan and I will continue to beat you in a Capitan".

Now that is strat domination!



Ulfsaar wrote:
JonBlund wrote:
I beat the crap out of them. Just so you all know ;)

rofl. what do you expect?


Ulfsaar


Lil Stealth wrote:
hahahaha it was a good game, tuffkix ;) you didnt do too bad, but your comets got really annoying...so i whispered to Hal900, "2 can play at this game.... >;)"

but i was impressed how you set up that rather large base.

good job on that part. good job B)


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PostPosted: June 1st, 2008, 11:23 am 

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Kahless wrote:
I would be very suspicious of anybody stratting me in a Captain or a Ram. Bout all they have been good for is giving something for hackers to play with.

Qa'plagh, Kahless


Pvt Noonee wrote:
That may be a wise comment, but it doesn't apply to the guy I'm talking about - believe me.

If you take the chalenge, then don't forget!! - loser posts! :)

Whatever way it goes and whoever posts - it will be fun for the rest to hear what happened. :)


JonBlund wrote:
No need to be suspicious. I'll play a strat with you Kahless, me in a Capitan. The challenge is me beating you while I can't DM. Sundays between 4-6 PM you said? Sure you can DM as much as you want...


BB1 wrote:
BTW, it is just as easy hacking ANY ship the same as the captain or ram...I for one have no idea why they don't for that matter <_<

It would seem a lot less obvious. But no0ewbs whatchya gonna do.


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PostPosted: June 1st, 2008, 11:23 am 

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Mr. Spock wrote:
It was 4am, I just finished my bedtime DM, when a man in the lobby asked for a strat. Who can say no to that? :)

I requested a quick one and while browsing for a small map I found 2 players map called 'Screwwed'. It's been a while when both of us last time played this map, so we were pretty confused about scrap whereabouts (at least I was :unsure: ).

I first deployed my rec on the south and then moved to the middle of the map, but too late, he was already there... he ejected me and killed most of my stuff :( , but spared my recycle :) . He instead built a gun tower in range of my rec and went for a reload. It would be very humiliating to go down like that...
I, now in scout cos my factory was gone, managed to destroy his s-power before it was too late... At that point, there was a lot of scrap around my rec so I built a lot of scavs, while I DMed him.
Scout can't do nothing to a dual SP tank so I was often in the air, but he was constantly outnumbered by my army of quick scouts. Funny thing, scouts were his speciality in our prior games. :)

Soon I managed to build factory and started building walkers. Those beasts in combination with my scouts were very lethal and soon I managed to fully recover and even gain more scrap.
I fortified my base with towers and build recovery facilities. I had scrap and time for a proper vehicle for strat but I kinda started to like my fast scout. All I needed was a stronger weapon than chain gun, so I picked up his fallen SP Stabbers. :P

So, he needed scrap elsewhere and he started exploring map and found a huge scrap field on the west and build an outpost there.
I tried to take out his outpost with howies but he always managed to destroy them before they did any damage.
Then I tried with APC's but no luck with them also... At that time I was short on scrap also, but my scavs found out another untouched scrap field far from my base. Well, at least some of them did, cos 2 or 3 went to see how is his gun tower doing. Tower said, I'm good, thanks for the scrap. :D
I hate when I sometimes in the middle of the fight forget about them...

In the middle of the game he killed my well equipped scout so I was back in my tank, but I was so used to scout I was driving before, that I forgot how to DM in tank. He got me airborne a few times till I managed to adjust.

Time was 5.30am, but I was not sleepy, he is very amusing guy to play with/against and damn good too. He just kept coming, that constant pressure was killing me. :blink:
During one DM in the middle, he pulled back to his first base and while I was chasing him I saw there just one gun tower and recycle. All that time I thought his rec was in that outpost... That gave me the idea for my next move... During our 50th DM in the middle I ejected him, rushed with my APC on his base, took down s-power and told little pilots to attack his rec, while I went back to defend mine. He was soon in brand new fully equipped vehicle but without rec.

Now was much easier to handle his pressure. He soon ran out of scavs (or he just kept them on the safe place), and I was throwing more and more mortars at his base...
He tried to snipe me a few times, but I was ready and he soon ran out of lives.

In the end, I told him that it was his win, not mine, cos of that rec-spare in the beginning. He just smiled :) and said that he doesn't like to take the rec so early in the game.
Oh, who was he? I hope that he will not hold it against me for saying his real name here... It was Valak.

Great game buddy



JonBlund wrote:
Phew start a strat 4 AM. I just hope you did not need to be at work something like 8 AM. Battlezone is killing people lol.
Valak is a tough bastid, congrats. You having him IPd is taking his alias edge away lol.

The host has some advantage it seems as the recycler spawns near center-geyser/scrap. Must be why map is called Screwwed lol..


Mr. Spock wrote:
Thanks Jon,
Yeah, 4-6 am isn't exactly the best time for strat, fortunately I was free of obligations next (that) day.
It seems I was not so smart host cos I first went south, then I came back to the center. I was almost screwwed. ;)


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