Battlezone 1

Opponent under alias created a strat… As I entered the game I saw Bunker Hill selected. I reminded my opponent of less scrap for the host, but he said that he likes a challenge of being shorthanded…

In a few minutes I had 8 tanks, 2 apc's, 3 minelayers, 4 howies, 1 turret, 5 scavs, 4 powers, 4 towers, 2 hangars, 2 supplies, silo, lot of extra scrap and myself in a dual sp tank.

We death matched a little bit, once I was in the air, once he was… No progress was made…
At one point he saw his chance in killing my rec – and he made it with a little help of his 2 tanks, even though I came there with my tanks, but I was a little bit late… It was one of those games when I can't hit anything that isn't standing still...

I took my remaining force and rushed on his rec.. While I was going towards his base I noticed I'm short on pilots so I decided to recycle my factory to get more of them… Why? Cos I'm stupid. :blink:
My first attack on his rec wasn't successful, nor was 2nd, he took me and my whole offense with his scouts... :ph34r:
In 3rd attempt I made it, I killed his rec and his constructor, but at that point I was a pilot :blink: with no rec or factory and with only 2 apc's left from my ofenssive force...
May I remind you what Neil Armstrong said about pilots: 'Pilots take no special joy in walking, pilots like flying'.

I then jumped in a turret and took my constructor and those apc's and went towards him. I decided to fight with pilots. When I saw him, I built barracks and waited. When he came I dropped around 50 pilots on him but he was still sitting in his tank. It was obvious what I have to do... I jumped out of turret and made 2 shots before his SP cut me at half. Like I said before, it was one of those days when I can't hit anything... Well, it was my last life... :ph34r:

Who was the stranger? It was Valak. I think that he didn't like my previous story. He beat me 3 times in a row since then... :huh:
I can just hope that he will like this one more and stop beating me...

Valack? Who is this strat stranger? What is his BZ history?

He uses many aliases...
Till recently I only knew him from the stories of some veteran players, and from the strategy guide...

Quotes from that guide:

2nd, The Passive-Aggressive Player: (most dangerous)
Attributes: This type of player is methodical in the choosing of what he does, they have a wide variety of play techniques and plan both offensive and defensive measures well. Preplanned they go into battle awaiting 2 things,
1) An opportunity for killing, (him being the Predator, and finding you)
2) An opportunity for killing, (you thinking YOU are the predator, finding him, and realizing, you've just been had. Again he, is the Predator)
Flaws: Victims generally to lamers and rushers, however, you will find they will win more often than not against these loser types.
Players: Shogun, Bum, Valak, JUDGE DREDD

Careful with people like SHOGUN, BUM, 911 The WALL, VALAK, and METALFATIGUE, if you pin them in the center geysers they are like Badgers in a corner and they will eat you alive if you aren't set up very well.

It seems that he liked my last story...
He can't wait till he registers and posts his story about the great game we played a few days ago... It was a FFA strat on Canyon Madness with Spectre, Hi Pal, Valak and me...

Does that mean you were 'the last man standing'?



Another queiry - shouldn't that be " 'I' can't wait till he registers..."

Nah, 'He' I wrote and 'He' I meant. It was a joke for him, cos he is constantly saying that he is NOT going to register and post here... He says he's lazy...

I can't tell you who was 'the last man standing', I told too many stories already... I want others to post a little bit... But I can tell you that story deserves two interpreters, cos a lot of stuff were going on during the game, and one couldn't be aware of everything that happened...

OK, OK - so generally speaking there are only a few straters willing to report to the community forum - NP!

Valak is a very good DM plr and stratter. Beating him the first time will for sure wake him up
I heard some rumours this week-end about Spock beating BUM as well? BUM has been sort of "best" back in time. I would love to hear some bragging about that victory Spock. Bum will for sure not come here and cry B)

huh, who told you about that? <_<

nah... that game didn't end like the game is supposed to end, so it is unfair to call it a victory... bum, although cornered and scrapless, left the game before end...
i saw you jon coming back to life with a even less scrap than he had... he might pull that one out... we will never know...

but when you're pulling my finger i will tell you a few details about that game...
it was a corner pocket, i spawned south and collected scrap on the east side, of course, he did the opposite, the risks of getting scrap from both sides were not taken in this game...
after a while he attacked my armory and silo at my spawn. i quickly came there and pushed him back... then i deployed my stuff on the south center and he deployed his at SW geysers...

i was set up pretty strong, towers guarding my entrance, minelayers in front of them, howitzers well spread hitting his things and so on...
he stayed in the e-w line, and became a victim of a e-w bug, i dmed with backup of my apc's and shoot there where he wasn't... he fought alone and paid the price by being in the air too many times and losing 1 of his 3 lives... he killed my towers and apc's a dozen times, but that scrap stayed in my possession till the 'end' of the game... at one point i didn't know what to do with all of that scrap...

frustrated of not being able to get me out of my tank, while blaming it on the lag, he soon left... don't get me wrong, he didn't just left, we talked about the e-w bug, he said that he never heard of it, he said it was a good game, but a bad map, and thanked me for the game...

all in all, it was a good game, it's a shame we didn't end it...

p.s. i watched a few games with hal 9000 and shogun, they now play on a regular bases... some of those were really memorable games... even just to watch ... i don't know if shogun reads these stories, but i know he doesn't post, so i'm trying to convince hal to describe at least one of those games...

If a real good player forgets, or does not know, about the EW bug then there may be something wrong. In fact I do not remember if I ever managed to take out his base. He always leaves before he's totally lost. I thought he only did that to me B) I've had a lot of fun with BUM.

I need to add this story to my previous, for complete picture of some things...

Bum and I arranged a game in the lobby, it was supposed to be 1 on 1 but Diego joined, so Bum picked Ice Ice Baby...

When I started playing online 7 months ago, one of the first thing I did was reading of strategy guide... Even now, when I meet some of those names in the games I become vey nervous and I don't play like I know and I should... Too much respect probably... :unsure:
I also noticed that some players were not mentioned in that guide but they should be... Jon Blund, T-34... and some were not yet famous when that strat guide was written, but you all know their names by now... maybe in another guide...
So the point is that I respect all those big names and I probably always will, at least most of them...

I better get back to the game... Diego is a new guy so he wasn't sure what is he supposed to do, but he was trying...
Very early in the game Bum came to my side (recon I suppose), but when he saw me he didn't go back, he started a fight... it was 1 on 1, but I somehow managed to get him out of his tank. I was almost without a hull, so afraid of a snipe, I hopped into another tank. Bum saw that and jumped into mine wounded tank before my pilot. Soon he was in the air again, then on the ground, and shortly after in his base with 1 life less...

This gave me time to build some defense in front of my base... When my outpost was finished I saw that Bum was not wasting his time and that he has outpost near me...
Soon the pressure began... he was constantly coming and shooting at my stuff and I couldn't get out from there... I build gun tower, he destroys it, I build another, he destroys my power, I rebuild it, he destroys my constructor and so on...

He tried with howies, but my howies were quicker, so he gave up on them... I'm not sure what Diego was doing cos Bum gave me no chance to think about anything else but him... he was coming and coming...

At one point I saw Diego killing my powers from behind, while Bum was shooting at my towers from the front... I was squeezed, but I managed to back them off...
This gave Bum chance to collect some scrap from my towers, which was till that time filling just my silos... He must had killed at least 40 towers and powers...

Diego was pretty quiet, I saw few messages on the screen that his unites were destroyed by Bum, but he was mostly sneaking behind my back...
He finally decided to went over the top, but he started shooting at my factory instead of my rec. Playing seek and hide with him gave Bum chance to recover and destroy almost my whole outpost...
I finally managed to get Diego out of (my) minelayer and took his life... then he left...
Finally it was just Bum and me without constant (although weak) threat from behind of being sniped or loosing rec cos of that over the top thing...

Now I started to build towers closer to Bum's base and moving howies within the range...
Bum's remote base was almost destroyed... victory was close.... he was running out of scrap cos he was in the air 7-8 times... I'm not hard to kill, but with towers behind my back this can be tricky... When I saw him with only 1 SP I knew that I'm close...
In one of his attacks I took his 2nd life and then he said that we are playing too long and that the game is lagged out... he said GG and left?!

No comment.


Btw, I played longest strat ever with Stingray. It lasted almost 5 hours and I again started too late, in 1.30am. Around 3am I offered him a draw, but he said 'No way!'. I didn't get much sleep that night, but today I'm glad for his answer.

And Jens Strating is back! I'm always glad when stratters are coming back, especially when they are from Europe.
He does miracles in his minelayer, but he still needs a few games to get back in form...

I already mentioned Hi Pal and his return, but I didn't say that he beat me on Theater of Pain... I was hiding from his sniper scope, trying to build a hangar where it can't be built :blink: and lost very quickly... I'm still waiting for a rematch...

Cautious .... but a very good declaratory battle descript: thanks, Commander.

Real as in: either rational or irrational, certainly not imaginary as in winning a game.

Phew beating BUM twice, and Stingray. I bet many want your head now Spock! Let's keep bragging and Bz strat will never die Amazing that HiPal is back. He left as one of the greatest, that filthy hippie. Has Jens from Danmark got a PC and connection yet? He also a great player. He used to give a crap about other's rules. But still everybody wanted to beat that laggy Dane in his minelayer. This could get fun.

i hope you are not following dirty hippie's footsteps... and i don't mean the bath thing , i mean leaving when on the top...

yeah, stratking has better connection now... no more lag issues, although he is still probably counting on it while driving his minelayer...

I thought I ain't gonna write here anymore cos nobody else is posting their war stories, but I just gotta describe the weirdest game I have ever played. I entered a sync-off strat that lasted about 10 min, and although I don't like sync-off games I just had to play this one when I saw that Westpac and Jens Stratking were in there.

Blast Chamber was the map. Spawn point didn't look good. All red on radar and no scrap in vicinity. I had to move, but luckily my search for scrap didn't last too long. I found a big pile that was already being collected by Jens's and Westpac's scavs. I squeezed in and collected enough to build 2 scavs, constructor, factory, armory and extra SP for my tank. But just as I dropped that SP Westpac came. I didn't see him coming so he hit me a few times before I returned fire. He blew me out of my tank but he was pretty damaged too so he had to go back for resupply. I had very little srcap so I could only afford a scout. 1 min passed and Westpac came shooting again. This time he had 2 bombers with him. They were firing on my factory while Westy was busy with taking out my rec. I couldn't do much in a scout... I lost my rec and I managed to build a tank before I lost factory too. I killed those bombers, and Westy again went to resupply. At that point I only had my stock tank, 1 scav, armory and constructor. I quickly repaired my tank and dropped dual SPs and, well you know, Westy came... He killed my last scav but finally this time I got him out of his tank. So, there I was with only my tank, armory, constructor and without scrap. No scavs, rec or factory.

Somewhere at that point Shogun entered the game. It was not over yet... I saw Jens scav that was stuck in a hill close to me. I sniped the scav, jumped in and out, and from that moment game started turning in my favor. One of my pilots was right then coming back home so I had a scav again. Westy didn't come this time. He was busy walking home and dealing with Jens. That gave me enough time to build hangar and supply. I secured that little I had left with gun towers, and went looking for Westpac. I found his undefended factory. It seemed that Jens and Westpac killed each others recs. So I killed Westy's factory and run back home. He was not happy about losing his factory so he chased me all the way to my base. That was the place where Westy died and lost his last life. But of course, you all know Westy, he couldn't stop there. He rejoined, dropped 2nd SP and went looking for me. He found me at my base where he died again. That was enough even for Westy, so he left and rejoined no more.

I didn't pay attention to what Jens and Shogun were doing but I knew Sho will come looking for me soon. Jens stayed a little bit in a game but he only had 1 life which he lost shortly after. It was down to Shogun and me.

I knew Shogun was not that kind of player that kills his own stuff, so he fought with only that little scrap he had collected. But still, it was more than I had. I, still in that tank from the beginning, couldn't think about attacking much. I tried to move with my constructor closer to him but I lost it while building s-power. I had nothing and I had to wait for his attack. I didn't have to wait long. He attacked in a tank with dual SP's. We DM on a neutral ground. Then we both went home for resupply. He came back in a light tank shooting comet. While I was busy dealing with that comet he again went home and came back in a tank, and then light tank again, and so on and on. That scenario repeated a lot. I don't remember how long we DMed that way but it must have been at least 1.5 hours. Very exhausting... Progress was made in baby steps. Sometimes he was red running back home and that is when I tried to snipe him, and sometimes I was red running back home and that is when he killed some of my s-powers or gun towers. I lost my last silo in one of his attacks. He was killing that little I had left bit by bit. Once, while he was going back home smoking, I sniped him. Once he killed himself, dunno how. He only had 1 life, I had 3. But soon he killed my hangar and supply and I no longer had the capability to repair and reload my tank that followed me from the beginning of the game. I threw some repairs and ammo from armory with few scrap I had left, but that was it. I was in the air shortly after. I died. I respawned and went running for the cover of the single gun tower I had left. Shogun came to finish me off, but I had a steady arm that day and my second snipe hit him. Finally this crazy game was over...I must have played 3 hours without rec and factory and 2 hours without constructor, and all that with just 1 tank... Now, when I think of it, I dunno how I pulled that one out...

It is hard to put down in writing all of the excitement this game offered, but it was one of those games I will remember a long time...

HAL

Hal9000,

Do you mind if I put this in to the Battlezone Magazine I'm putting together? I've been looking for things like this to tell about the battles and so forth with BZ1 and BZ2.

Hey lucky foot, of course I dont mind. You can use anything I wrote in here and put it in BZ Magazine. Let me just say I really appreciate how you are promoting Battlezone, and I think this Magazine is a great idea. I read the first number and I can say that it was great. I am really looking forward to the next issue and that interview with BZ programmer. If you have any questions about BZ1 just feel free to pm me and I will gladly answer you.

HAL

Hal,

Thanks. I'm glad you like the magazine. I know that there are people from Both sides of the number (1 and 2) that like it and I try to make it fair for both. I'd even put in The Red Odyessy if their was enough going around about it.


I do have some I want to talk to you about so expect and email from me.

I had a couple of knock down drag out wars against Hal9000 last weekend. Hal is one of the most improved strat players in recent years. We played on the Compass for our first match. I moved to the west to collect scrap and then took my base east. Hal came up the west side taking out my silos and scavs before I could collect enough for a good fight. He then moved west on my side of the map. I retreated to his side of the map and set up a small base with some howis. I was able to win some early DM's and moved into the middle spot with my factory. I was able to put some howis on the hill near his base. He abandoned the west side and went back east. I pulled all my forces into the abandoned area to collect scrap. I was about to get set up for an assult to wipe out the rest of his units, but he counter-attacked with some bombers and got my recycler. I was able to return the favor a little while later with a tank that I sniped inside of his base. Soon we were both low on attack units. The game ended when I lost my last life trying to snipe him at his armoury.
Our next encounter was more enjoyable. We played on Blast Chamber. After the initial collection of scrap, Hal took up residence in the south. I had a nice base set up in the west. Originally I had the upper hand in the south west corner. I had a factory, towers, and howis working for me. Hal set up some howis on the hill and starting slowly working on the strong hold. I was losing DM's and losing ground. He built towers to solidify the corner. I had to move my forces north to get out of range of the howis. Once again, I get the bomber attack on the recycler. I had it almost beat down, but ran out of ammo. At this point I had only 4 scavs. I quickly put the constuctor to use and built up a defensive position. Hal started up again with the howis. I knew that over time, he would take out units that I couldn't replace. I took all my offensive units north and attacked across the middle. I called in some ammo and repairs before the fight. I waited until I could engage him. I lost almost all of my units, but I got him in the air. I was able to power up with supplies and assulted his recycler. I barely got it before my tank was ripped up by his units. I got back into another tank and was able to get the ammo and repairs in the center and went back to kill his constructor. As I came down the hill, I saw him kneeling against the wall for a snipe. I was lucky and got him before he got me. Next thing to do was protect what I had left before Hal counter attacked. I used miners to slow him down. This allowed me to start the howi attack on his towers in the south west. I thought he was weak and attacked with about 8 tanks. He fought back with apcs and tanks and I lost most of the force. After three hours the game finally ended when I took ten tanks with sps and pops to attack his last four tanks and armoury. I have played many games with Hal9000 over the past month or so. I win some and I lose some, but they are always tough matches.

Thanks for the games,

Shogun

When thinking about it, it was Hal that that may have burned me out. It isn't fun anylonger with 3 hour games, high tension til 4 am and finally get your butt kicked. Hardly being able to sleep and the alarm clock ringing 7 is a nightmare. The people you work with saying you look like a zombie. I had to take a break, he was liturally killing me. It got a bit too exiting B)

At least now we know who did it, good work Commander! Now we just need to bring him down and punish for his terrible acts.
Those kids of today, they don't respect elders anymore...

I'm also glad to see some other players describing their battles here. I was sick of that Spock's stories, he just kept posting and bragging like he was the only true stratter out there...

And BTW, I heard that Croat was spanked 'few' times on Theater yesterday.
In last redemption game he even had big advantage, but only 1 life left. Hi Pal's ejection and air snipe, after he got airborne Spock, was awesome!
N1, I will get you for that...

P.S. I didn't get much sleep last night, only a few nightmares of me photographing landscape on Mars with parachute on.
Since I woke up I was practicing with HAL that map. I was trying some new stuff... It seems that map has a lot of DM elements in it, no time or space for lot of building. It requires quick moves.
When was time for lunch, it was 3:2 for HAL. That's much better score against him than usual. I just hope that my new tactics will work for that Dirty Hippie too...

I said I won't, but I gotta tell 1 more story; I played a lot of games with this guy and I didn't describe any, it's kinda unfair to him...

In last 2 months I played at least 40 games (around 20 1on1) with Jens Stratking. Most of them were really fun, because of his unique way of playing. They all started the same, and, except 1 game, ended the same.
Jens likes to play 3 maps; Blast chamber, Citadels and Purgatory. I will describe one of ours Citadels games so you could get a picture how games with him can be fun.

If he is in a good mood there will be some scrap collecting in the beginning. If not, you better have your 2nd SP and wait by your rec, because Jens is coming...
This particular game I'm describing, he was in a good mood, so I managed to collect some scrap and build some defense around my rec (3 turrets with SP, 3 towers/powers, 5 tanks guarding it, and a few minelayers).

Then I started to think about some offense, so I moved with few howies, constructor and rest of my offense near his side and started preparing for attack (silo, supply...).
Soon I noticed red dot in the angle of the map... I knew what that means... Jenny is going over the top again, but I said to myself, let him, I have a strong defense, but, oh boy, how was I wrong... Jens is experienced over the top rec killer and my defense didn't stop him, he killed my rec with an ease. He then said his famous expression: 'all 2 ez'. Hehe, you gotta love that Danish, he can make you laugh even though you are mourning the loss of your rec...

After that I had to go back home and fix what can be fixed before he comes for something else. I was thinking about attacking him immediately but I was too weak for a fight without howies first and now that was not an option, because the time wasn't on my side anymore, and he for sure had a lot of defenses home because he came to my side alone.

While I was riding home, I saw his still green tank, so I decided to take 1 of his 5 lives. He was grateful, he said: 'faster way home'. Hehe, laughs on both side again.
He was laughing less when he came faster home for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th time. But in one of his attacks he managed to kill my constructor too.
We were fighting hard, for every piece of scrap, for every scav... I was running low on them, so I had to snipe his and exchange them for tanks. I had a lot of scrap, but on Citadels without rec and constructor that doesn't mean much.

He was afraid of losing his last life so he stopped with his solo missions and started mining the whole map and shooting comets at me... I kept my buildings alive with repairs from armory, but every now and then one comet managed to pass through and destroy something, so I needed a better plan than waiting for him to lose his last life.

Silly Jens called me a base sitter, even though I had no rec or cons, and all that on the map on which is even hard to attack with rec. In fact, I tried that in the beginning of the game but we all know how that ended...

He then started to kill his constructor to get more scrap and that is the thing I hate the most. I can forgive his over the top rec killing, jumping into the rec, spawnkilling, but not scrapmaking.
At that point I decided to end this struggling (we were playing for 2 hours by then), so I recycled all my defensive units, built 10 offensive and went straight to his base. I still don't know how, but in a few minutes I destroyed everything there, including his rec. When the big fight was over I had 2 wounded tanks and he had only his minelayer. Then I built 2 bombers and started looking for him. When I found him, he was stockmining, but like in 19 out of 20 games that wasn't helpful to him. Bombs took his last life.

All in all, it was a great game, like every other with my Danish buddy. At the moment he is mad at me, but I know he will get over it and forgive me, because I really like to play with him, because he is one of the most imaginary guys out there and his ways of killing opponents rec are really fascinating. If he wants your rec, he will have it, and there's no way for you to stop him. If you stop his tank, few other tanks with comets, pop guns and who knows what will finish the job. If not they, APC pilots for sure. When you think that you managed to defend your rec and that his attacking wave is finally over, there comes another unit of his and the rec is gone. On that field we can learn a lot from that guy.

Thank you Jens, for all the games we played and I hope we'll continue doing that for a long time...

Over the top? Pheh.

¶ ][ had an awesome game of strategy with Jugalo43 tonight. We played on ~YG~ JanusDread's map Dread's Warzone Earth, which is really a night-time Achilles map. It is quite large and loaded with scrap fields. We both played as NSDF. Here is how ][ remember the game, ][ hope this is an accurate account...
¶ ][ have learned *finally* not to go attacking the opponent by myself. So ][ strategized to build a nice base before attacking. ][ only left my base area to go build one Silo a little bit away from my base, where I also dropped a Nav Beacon. ][ located one other batch of scrap fields, and dropped a second Nav. ][ returned to base and re-armed my Grizzly with dual SP-Stabbers, and a regular Mortar.
¶ After ][ had 2 Scavengers, my Armory, a Hangar, and one S-Power/Gun Tower going, ][ built my Factory and started making Tanks. ][ had 6 built, which ][ re-armed with dual SP-Stabbers as ][ built them. ][ mapped the Tanks into two squads of three each. Then ][ got a few more S-Power/Gun Tower combos set up.
¶ Jugalo43 admitted he hadn't stratted in a long time. As we built we kept up a nice chat going, which ][ personally enjoy. Jugalo43 began the battle by attacking my wandering Scavenger.
¶ ][ responded by locating his closest Silo, which was guarded by 2 Gun Towers powered off one S-Power. ][ used my Mortar on the 1st Gun Tower, and hit the second with an SP barrage. ][ turned his Silo to rubble, then the S-Power. I left his Barracks, and returned to base.
¶ The first two skirmished Jugalo43 and ][ had were in the field, and he found himself outnumbered by myself and my two squads, but both times he escaped after being ejected into the black night sky.
¶ The third fight he tried to attack my base, but ][ met him just outside my turf. Again he brought a small backup force, so we PWNed him (lol) and this time, I managed to track him down. After he ate a volly or two of SP-Stabber rounds, he said "lol i was just about to snipe you".
¶ The fourth fight was because he attacked my base, and got inside, but by then ][ had two Gun Towers pointing the direction he came. He sent two APC's ahead of him. Gun Towers got the first APC, and a combo of GT fire and Offense unit fire finished off the last two. He entered my base after them, but ][ quickly surprised him, ][ think, because his Tank was vaporized from his left flank before he could do much damage, and between my Gun Towers and my two squads, we likewise vaporized his attacking force. During that battle, ][ was able to see him ejected, and I used my spacebar "attack Player" command to get him killed.
¶ ][ set up a Turret behind my Recycler, and re-armed it with dual SP-Stabbers. ][ also sent a Turret to guard my Silo, and ][ sent two SP-Stabber powerups to his spot before commanding him to go. He eventually parked on the two SP-Stabbers which loaded them up.
¶ Jugalo43 orchestrated another attack on my base, and he managed to kill a Gun Tower ][ had set up by my Recycler. Again ][ was able to destroy his Tank with SP-Stabber barrages, aided by Gun Tower hits. When he got ejected, ][ lost him in the dark, but a lucky Mortar round fired blindly showed me hid brackets. He was able to get another tank to Pick Him Up, but my units were on him quickly, and as he fought them off backing up a hill, ][ came over the hill and pulverized his Tank, but ][ think ][ managed another spacebar "attack Player" command to send my two fresh Bombers after him. He did manage to destroy two of my Offense units and a parked Howitzer also.
¶ The sixth skirmish was brief: ][ caught him spying on my base from the top of an overlooking hill. ][ zoomed up there, and he gave good accounting of himself before ][ finished off his Tank. ][ saw him sail over the hill after he got ejected, and tried to track him, but he escaped. Moments later his own unit ran him down and he died by the dreaded "Jugalo43 was killed by Jugalo43" blunder. Stupid bots, lol.
¶ His Scavengers kept coming to my base to reclaim his scrap. Also, several of his Scavengers fell prey to my single Turret in the field. ][ could see his ammo graph depleting as they were polished off. muhahahahaaa! ][ sent him more ammo.
¶ The last attack came. ][ was massing my forces (2 Tank squads = five total), and one Bomber with two of three remaining, and ][ had also built two Scouts to replace the two missing units, although they weren't mapped in. ][ also had three Howitzers. But ][ saw a group of red arrowheads on the far side of my radar display. ][ commanded all my Offense units to follow me, and we caught his force entering my base. As he got ejected, ][ was unable to see exactly where he went off to. ][ conducted a brief search while my units continued to fight. ][ did not find him, and assumed he escaped again. ][ gathered my Offense units to the Hangar / Supply area (two of each by now), and then hurried them out of the base because ][ thought he might start sniping them. We were on our way (nine Offense units and three Howitzers) to find his base (which ][ never laid eyes on) when the game ended suddenly as he had moved enough inside my base for my Gun Tower to locate him and singe his hide.
¶ It was a GG, not just because ][ won (woot!) but because Jugalo43 proved to be a very honorable player and a strong offensive one. His only fault that game as ][ see it was attacking with small forces.
-= the end =-

Short news from the battlefield:

Yeterday I got the biggest compliment ever; Stingray told me that I'm a cheater. He told me that after I beat him twice on a Corner Pocket in less than 30 minutes all together. He even repeated that in the lobby. Silly Stingray. He looked kinda rusty on that Mars, but to call someone a cheater just because he is better player than you is pretty stupid.
I only once before saw 'you are cheating' argument after a loss, and that was when HAL 9000 beat Talus on the same map, in the same way.
Stingy, if your ego isn't hurt too much, I can teach you how that map is supposed to be played.

I finally managed to beat Hi Pal few games in a row. It seems I'm not lost strat case after all. B)

BUM and I are BZ buddies again. He is not longer saying 'rusher', or 'i can't hit u' when he's losing. He's now saying 'it was my daughter playing, it wasn't me'.
But I must give him credit because he started playing with NSDF and with snipe ON. Games are much better with him now. I even think that he is better player now.
HAL and I played 3 good team strats vs him and T-34. Croatian team was much superior, but that's not hard with HAL on your side.

Stratking has similar lame 'can't-lose' tactic; he says 'dinner', or 'guests' and just leaves when things are not going in his favor. :rolleyes: Also, he just plays sync off Blast Chamber and Pac-Man, and he thinks that he is good when he destroys late joiner's rec.
He doesn't want to play me anymore 1on1 sync on because I started doing to him what he is doing to others and he can't stand it. He thought that rec diving, scrap making and spawnkilling were allowed just to him. No, no Jenny, it is for all or for nobody. I still haven't tried that over-the-top thing, but I might do that in one of the games with him, if he doesn't kick me before, because now I can only have fun with him in 3 or 4 players game.

Westpac is reborn. I made a deal with him and he is now nice and polite. I still can't believe it. I even played a few normal strats with him. He is not using aliases and he plays fair. It is nice to have him around when he acts like a decent man. He is 'normal' for 3 weeks now, I hope he will manage to maintain that... Community with him is richer for 1 good stratter.

There's new player DarkVim on the Zone who is very promising strat player. I underestimated him once, and he beat me good. He controls his AI's better than some veterans. He's now experimenting with weapons upgrades... He has 100 questions about gameplay, and that's why he is becoming better player every day. That's how HAL and I began. Thanks Jon one more time for your patience and advices you gave us.

Two DMers, WereWolf (Hound) and ChaosX are trying their chances in strat, and they are doing it pretty well. Werewolf gave me a hard time on our few fights on Corners, and kicked my butt in a 3 way strat on Ice (BS Wewrewolf, BS Chaos and I).
His clan teammate, ChaosX sniped me out of team strat :angry: (ChaosX and HAL vs T-34 and me). He sniped me 4 times in a game with 4 lives. G1's . The game ended as a draw, because it was past 4am (5am in Haifa) and not much progress was made on both sides.

HAL told me that he saw TheWall in 1 game. I hope he will drop by again, because he is the only one of those big guys I still haven't got the chance to play with.

And, after a 5 months break, JonBlund came to the lobby again. He even played one warm up strat with HAL. I got to try play him before he gets back in a form, because if he does I will (again) have no chance...

:blink: Tanks with Comets???

Rocket Tanks, but you already knew that, didn't you?

Funny stuff lol! Poor Stingray. Btw Jenny asked me yesterday if it was me learning you how to "mod" the game B) Talus is nice if he wins, too.
Beating Hi Pal 2 in a row has never been easy. BUM always returns after he has licked his wounds. He tries being good, really..
Hal kicked me butt yeah, still hurts. The bastid hides under alias and I was thinking John Doe was an exampel on how Bz strategy develops over time. I thought one moment it was Spock or Valak who had improved. I kinda calmed down when John Doe took of his mask B) I guess not many are able to beat Hal today. If there's anyone who has beaten him 3 in a row lately then let me know who; I'll be surprised.......

I wish I could just drop everything in real life but I simply can't afford another year of being a Bz addict...

Yeah, Jenny forces me to take his special tests from time to time. I always accept them, because I know how big mouth he has, and I'm afraid what will happen if I don't. I passed all his silly tests, but it seems that those beatings he took from me still hurt him, so he decided to talk about non existing modifications.

When I told him that I have never beat you in 1on1 game, he said 'of course you didn't, he is modified'. He said the same thing about Shogun. It seems that all those who are beating him are modifed.

So you two played? How did it go? Did he give you any trouble at all?

Jens told me Hal and Spock are modifed meaning he thinks you guys changed the code in the game. He said he couldn't kick you two because you modifed the code with a anti kick something... Hopefully i proved kick works and that if your in the shell it wouldn't work (due to a bug) and that it's not a modifcation. I kicked wowee and jens and showed how the kick wouldn't work from the shell.

I also told him if the code was changed the game will tell you, i did this test, if the bzone.exe is slightly different it will play but the game will tell each player, ( player X maybe cheating).

Omg, she did that 7-8 years ago. Some ppl never change. We didn't play btw..

How long will this trend last!! It has 10 pages or more

It's a message board silly, not a chat room - ppl post there responses and thoughts at their liesure as suits them.

I personally thought that Killer's post of mid-may was a classic base-sitter's post and that Jugaloo was the real hero of that game because he kept attacking!

No news from the battlefront Warchild?

Computer down and working a lot.My intrest in in softball atm as I coach in 2 leagues.But as I do play BZ if my computer would be going,not like others who say they quit.Nite time is for BZ and you can find time.

Wise words, Mr Warchild!

Hard to find players for a team strat these days but I got lucky yesterday. I was under alias and I entered a game on Ice Ice Baby, with Jens Stratking and Bum. Although it was not officially a team strat (they didn't ally), I think it is safe to say that it was, because they didn't fire a shoot on each other for the whole game. They have become the best bz buddies (lucky guys, they are really perfect for each other ) and now they like to team on people. I was trying to build some defense outside my base but I was attacked by Bum. While he went to reload Jens came from the other side, so soon I was forced to retreat all the way to my rec. They build some gun towers outside of my entrance, but in some distance to each other. I was pinned down. It was funny, and yet disturbing, to see Jens attacking my base and then smoking going pass Bum, who didn't shoot at him and just went on me.
After 30 mins of their unsuccessful attacks they realized that it won't be easy to crack me down as they thought, so Jens asked Bum what is my ping. My cover was blown. They started to attack even harder. Bum brought some howitzers to the fight but he lost them as quickly as he brought them. Then he tried to go over the top but I saw him and killed him. He realized he can't get any closer to me so he started blasting from the safe distance. He got me in the air a couple of times but he made no progress. Then he started using splinters. That was kinda tricky and a couple of times I lost my entire base in a seconds. Meantime, Jens was not resting. While Bum was reloading, Jens was attacking with his tank and apcs. That alone would have been easy but Bum was reloading and coming back pretty fast so it was no picnic.
They were trying and trying but they never managed to kill my rec. I was never able to collect all that scrap that was in front of my base because they just kept coming. I saw bad moon rising when I couldn't kill Jens apc pilots anymore. 10 mdm's couldn't kill them. Jens also noticed that so he started sending more and more of them. Bombers saved me there. They had a match point a couple of times but I really badly wanted to win that game and I never thought about giving up. Soon their attacks become weaker and weaker (they were running out of scrap), and after I killed Bum for the third time, he left. Jens was a piece of cake afterwards and he also left shortly after.
It was a really good 2 hours team strat game.

GG Jens and Bum

HAL

LMHO I bet that was a good game
No gaming for me in a while yet. Still doing my best to stay away.. Hope you're all ok.

Not good to hear that Jon, not good at all. Now days, mostly dm is played and the number of strats in a day can be counted on a fingers of one hand. I remember how it was when you used to play. There was a dm going on only when you opened one. Otherwise, strats were played, even by those who don't normally strat. You somehow lured them all in. Dang, you even persuaded Noonee to join that strat practice (let us forget that he thought it was going to be a dm practice ). We need your warstories too. Nobody writes them, although I must say I am really happy to see Shogun post. I didn't expect that.... He and I really had a lot of great games that deserved to be written, but I guess we kinda lazy to write them. Just remember Jon, that resistance is futile, BZ is going to get you addicted anyway, no matter what you do...
People, I want to see some warstories!!!

HAL

Ive got one, although it isnt great.

Map: Ice Ice Baby
Type: FFA (3)
Players: Me, koryo, NoLbayou

Before this we had a 2v2 with HAL, which did not end well because he was with bayou and i was with koryo.

HAL said he needed a break, so the three of us started another one. It started well, but then koryo came and apc rushed me. I killed his apcs and his 2 or 3 tanks, and i think i even killed him as a pilot. Meanwhile bayou came around the top and killed most of his base. I sat there licking my wounds for a while, then i went exploring while building a platoon of tanks. Guess what i found. bayous rec, fac, and armory just sitting at the start. I managed to take out his rec and factory in 1 round before i had to reload. he was totaly completely defenceless. He had his army and scavs and constructor killing koryo. from the conversation i read while that was going on, koryo had walkers, gun turrets, and some tanks, but bayou finished him.

koryo left, and at that point i was in good shape. i had taken out bayous armory while that all was going on, and he had set up camp on the northern side of the map, but still within the circle. I hadent done much fighting, and i figured all he had was 4-5 tanks and a constructor. my army went to find him, and (as usual) i got destroyed by his army and some towers he had set up. he still had around 5 scavs and 3 silos. he was down to 3 tanks oficially, and i still had some apc's on reserve. during some attacks i had on his base, he had managed to kill me twice. i had set the game to 3 lives, so i was down to my last one. i had 3 howies, 5 apc's, and 2 other tanks all ready to go. i had him down to 2 scavs, and 2 tanks. i was just gonna sit there and let the howies rain fire on his base, forcing him to come out, giving me the advantage. he had a lone scavenger out while i was getting ready just outside of his base, and i attacked it. i was just about to kill it when the game ends.

i sat confused for a minute, before i read ~TO~Ulfsaar has been sniped by NoLbayou. i couldnt believe it. i was so angry at myself. the thing is, i was moving around like i usually do when attacking things. he must have been sitting on top of a supply.

GG koryo and NoLbayou

Ulfsaar

Amasing - I didn't know that a supply building could replenish sniper rounds!

(Thanks HAL, great Wstory also)

yeah, i have never tried it, but i have heard many times that it works. so just click as fast as you can, and if you are good at it, you can take out entire armies.

Ulfsaar

You're doing good, you're winning almost, you can't loose it.., and then you get sniped. Hehehe
Great story because I know how it feels lol. You get em next time

Most every game I play is a GG. Only ones I not like is hacked or cheat games. Other than than that i like them all. That is why I play BZ and carry the most hours there.Hell this thrend has gone to far. If your no playing GG you would quit BZ . Good day

Great weapon combonations
BDog Grizzly w/ 2x SP-Stabber... very hard to beat, unless you're a PRO Magger.
BDog Grizzly w/ 1 SP-Stabber & 1 AT-Stabber... also pretty deadly.
BDog or NSDF Bobcat w/ Hornet & MAG Cannon... charge MAG to full, lock with Hornet, gives many kills if full MAG hits/spins/confuses opponent... sometimes a smattering of baby blue MAG pellets needed to finish off the victim.
Stealth Tank w/ 2nd MAG Cannon... no explanation necessary for experienced BZers, but when ][ was a noob online, ][ didn't know why my 1 MAG didn't blow up the other Tanks .
NSDF Scout w/ TAG Cannon... Miniguns rip an opponent to shreds, the TAG just add to the carnage.
BDog Razor w/ Bolt Buddy... This is deadly because the Bolt Buddy fires straight-on, allowing a Shadower to lock and fire easily as well. It should be noted a BDog Razor has enough ammo to be capable of firing one Comet.
Rocket Tank w/ TAG Cannon added... TAG overwrites the Hornet (which is harder to lock on with anyhow) so this combo does well (when the victim isn't dropping alot of Nav Beacons to hide behind).
Grizzly Tank -- yes a stock one... this is a bad-a$$ vehicle because (if you can aim well and hit alot,) the AT-Stabber / Minigun combo is good, but adding in the Thumper to disorient your victim gives an edge.
~what others?

BUM would say: "Why mess with all that, just give me dual Blasts and I'll show you who's the boss."

You mentioned the most effective upgrade/combo's I guess. It's fun, the player can allways surprise the enemy in strategy. Your last 9 scrap (Razor+Tag) can be good enough to turn the game. Deadly lil fly

Beaten by a razor - that's horrible!

I played three good team strats. First one was on Ice Ice Baby, second and third were on Blast Chamber.

My Ice Ice story is very similar to HAL's Ice Ice story, because the actors were the same. BUM and Sir Stratking against me. BUM was CCA with stabbers and I got to admit, he is more dangerous like that than with those silly blasts. With dual SP's on his Czar he few times whipped out my whole outpost (hangar, supply, silo, barracks, 2 towers, 2 powers and few scavs) without reloading, while I was on the other side fighting with Jenny. I can't understand that BUM, after 9 years of playing he still doesn't understand that he can't win strat with just his DM. Yes, he destroys everything, he goes home for reload and then he is trying to destroy my scavs, but that just isn't good enough if he plays against averge or a good stratter. Like that, it is more important to push him back when he comes for the second time than for the first time, because he is just giving me scrap. Anyway, after he destroyed my outpost I just stood between him and scrap and DMed (he alone, I with my units), while my scavs were collecting in peace. He is very easy to deal with in 1on1 strat, but with Jenny in a game it was much harder for me. You are probably wondering why I said that it was a team game, when almost every 3 way strat is some kind of team game. Well, beside they were not shooting at each other when they had a chance (HAL described that perfectly: 'It was funny, and yet disturbing, to see Jens attacking my base and then smoking going pass Bum, who didn't shoot at him and just went on me. '), they also sometimes forgot to whisper to each other, they instead said some things at loud (by mistake) and than I saw messages which only strat partners give to each other (my position, their position and so on).

And there I was, fighting with BUM in the middle of the map, while Jenny's APC's and her over-the top tank were attacking my rec. Every now and then I had to came home to protect my rec and then hurry back before BUM collects scrap from my outpost. I was not doing good as HAL, I was losing. That outpost was not a good idea, but I didn't know back then that it was going to be a team strat. Fighting on two fronts was getting too hard so, in fear of losing my rec, I decided to withdraw to my home entrance. Fortunately, I was the host and I set sync ON and 3 lives each (Jenny always opens sync OFF strats with 5 lives). They both like to rejoin when the things are not going like they imagined, and lives are very important when playing Jenny, because she uses all but last one on rec hunt and rec dive. So, my focus now was on eliminating one of them out of a game. BUM was on 2 lives and Jenny was on 1, because she lost 2 lives while rec diving so I decided to eliminate her first. I didn't have to wait long for a chance… while I was dogfighting with BUM in front of my base, Jenny was stockmining behind my back. When BUM went for reload I hopped out and sniped Jenny.
GG Jenny!

Unfortunatly, I killed Jenny too late. BUM was too strong now, he had all the scrap, I had just my tank and few scavs. But, except few howies firing at my base, he kept coming alone without help of his offensive units. That's why he lost 1 more life. Then he changed the record a bit and started sending APC's at me, while he was behind them with those deadly stabbers. I managed to reject few of his attacks, but he was too strong, and I soon ran out of ammo, hull and, of course, scrap. He was killing my scavs too quickly, while his howies were making it hard to collect. So I started sniping in front of my rec, but soon his howie got me while I was on foot. I respawned in front of my base, where he, by then, built a pretty nice outpost. I saw his tank coming right on me and shooting, so I pulled my sniper and start firing. First time I missed, second time I missed, third time I managed to hit him, but he managed to hit me too at the same time. Lucky me, I still had one life left and he had none.
GG BUM!

Blast Cannons are the most unfair weapon in the whole game, reaching out to 300m with such Devastating never-miss POWER. That's why most honorable Players will not pick one up.

Disagreed a 100% (that counts for strat). A game like Bz needs a couple of "bad" guys. The single player missions are built on this. It's called challenge.

BUM kicked my butt 100 times, him blasting, me being NSDF newbie. It was tuff, but it payed off in the end. Strategy wins or lose the game, not DM....
The only thing I tried looong ago was explaining BUM and ncdoc to "take it easy" on young players and newbies.
I would say, try to agree with your CCA opponent. If that's not possible; anyones choice to take it or leave it.

Well time for this trend to end. Jon has given up BZ and the War Games are gone.I NEVER QUIT !!!