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 Post subject: Stratters list
PostPosted: April 17th, 2009, 10:54 am 
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This isn't a ranking list. It is a simple list that should help all stratters to find their matching partner for a strat challenge, cause you learn the best when you play against someone who is equal as you or slightly better.

I divided stratters into 3 groups; pros, averages and beginners. If you are in Average group that doesn't mean tomorrow you can't be among the Pros. And if you are in the Beginners group, that isn't anything derogatory, it just means you are a strat beginner, still better than all those silly DMers. Tomorrow you can be among Averages. :)

Pro can beat anyone, averages are those who know more than basics, beginners are those who are still learning. Some are averages or beginners since 1998 and that will never change casue they can't think outside the box. On the other hand some became pros after only a few months of playing. And of course, some who have been pros in the '98/'99, might look funny today, with new stratters and new tactics that appeared.

If you are not on the list that only means I (or other pros) haven't played you yet or you don't strat (anymore). If I forgot someone, I'll edit my post later and I will also edit it if anyone makes a progress.

Here they are, in alphabetical order:

PROS:
BUM
Fly
HAL 9000
Hi Pal aka Dirty Hippie (RETIRED)
HyperFighter
Jazz aka T-34
JonBlund
Mr. Spock
Sir Stratking
Shogun
valak

AVERAGES:
DarkVim
DEATHLOK
Dominant
F-16
Fired-Up (RETIRED)
FURION aka DREDD
furykiller
Rusty Guns
tesla_trooper
TheWall
Warchild
Westpac

BEGINNERS:
Dx. aka reaper
everbody else (previous list was too long)


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: April 17th, 2009, 11:51 am 
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Ah yes... an average stratter. I would like to thank the academy :lol:

EDIT: As of October 9, 2009, HyperFighter became a pro stratter. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: April 18th, 2009, 6:48 am 
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I plan on becoming a pro stratter once I have a full time high speed Internet connection. :D Deathmatch is getting very boring. Why do you think I finally am determined to beat The Red Odyssey? :mrgreen:

What a coincidence... Dx is at the bottom. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: April 18th, 2009, 2:15 pm 
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this is a great thread spock,
It doesnt just let me know who i should get a good game from, but it tells me who to avoid,lol.


cheers


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: April 18th, 2009, 4:09 pm 
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Then you'll have to avoid many people. :) Including me :twisted:


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: April 18th, 2009, 5:00 pm 
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HyperFighter wrote:
Then you'll have to avoid many people. :) Including me :twisted:


very true, but it looks like there are just as many numpties like me :)


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: April 21st, 2009, 9:41 pm 
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I think the list is quite accurate really. I haven't really been able to hold my own against quite a few of the pros. Except for Jens. He's an exception. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: April 24th, 2009, 7:06 am 
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just a list....


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: April 24th, 2009, 9:22 am 
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Even valak is a so-called pro stratter according to the list, and I beat him back when he was considered a good guy.

I think Tesla Trooper is harder to beat than Sir Stratking, but who am I to say who is pro and who's not? Perhaps valak has stratted more than me, which is quite likely if you don't count how much single player I've played. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: April 24th, 2009, 5:16 pm 
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I didn't make the list :o




I'm going to start stratting more, took out a few of ya'll before, but snipe definitely needs to be on.


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: April 24th, 2009, 9:20 pm 
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Sporkinator wrote:
I think Tesla Trooper is harder to beat than Sir Stratking


So very true, Stratking's a walk in the park compared to Tesla. :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: April 26th, 2009, 11:25 pm 
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I have beaten Stratking easliy :)


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: April 26th, 2009, 11:26 pm 
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Stratking isn't a good example, try fighting Spock for a decent test of strength.


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: May 1st, 2009, 2:37 pm 
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Well, we don't have 10 categories, and it would be unfair to say there are only 2 or 3 pro stratters in BZ so I made that list a bit longer. Some are on the edge of belonging to other group, but it is like that in all categories.

Reaper doesn't play strat. He's on the list only cause he is changing BZ strat (in his mod) to be more understandable to DM'ers, while his main advisor is BFT, a hard core bomber.

I don't like Jens either (he uses FPS cheat, alt tab cheat, ally cheat, he rec dives, rejoins, he's a racist, a liar, hard on noobs...), but you can't say he doesn't understand strategy. He is not very good at DM, but if you don't attack him in the first few minutes, not many from Averages can beat him. He can defend very good and he can destroy almost any recycler. :P
Most of you think of Jens while having Pac-Man games on your mind. Those games are 4 players sync off strats and in most cases they end up as all vs Jens. You can't judge someone's ability by those games. Try to beat him on Citadels, sync on. My score with Jens in 1on1's is something like 100-5 in my favor, and I lost 3 Citadels.
Understanding how scrap functions is crucial in BZ strat. As soon as some big fight is finished Jens will have silo there and scavs working. He knows he has to collect it before his opponent. Also, I have never seen someone using miners, APC's, turrets and rocket tanks with comets good as he does. He thinks like a stratter.

Tesla is dangerous cause he has good DM and goes for the rec as soon as he spawns, but other than that I don't see him as a big threat. The one who builds 10 gun towers around his base and goes on solo crusades can't be a pro. That tactic may work for some, but it will fail against most.
He still has a lot to learn, but yes, both him and HyperFighter are on the way up.

Even though valak is mainly DM'er, he knows almost everything about strategy. When I was a noob he was my nightmare cause of his DM, later I became his nightmare cause of my strat.

TheWall, pro for some, is among averages due worsening in BZE, where the biggest (and the only) threat is bomber Grinder, who can't win even when his opponent is in a Ram. 8)

You also gotta know that anyone can lose to anyone. Sometimes little things decide... Beating someone once doesn't make you a better player than your (beaten) opponent. And only sync on 1on1 strats count, anything else is just a casual stratting.

P.S. Upyerkilt, don't avoid anyone, just prepare yourself differently for different opponents and learn from every game.


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 Post subject: Re: Stratters list
PostPosted: May 2nd, 2009, 12:51 am 
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s***


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