Battlezone 1

2 front fights are nasty in all games, so I understand what you mean. Well done my friend

Thanks for the recent stories guys. Good to have you here!

AAAAHHH WHAT A GAME WHAT A GAME! in wonder if i woulda done better if my gf hadnt been right there asking for help on her HW? jk:P

anyways yeah that was intense. i was lucky to get that outpost set up in the first place, but i attacked too soon. at one part i completely lost everything, but i had enough scrap to retake my ground bit by bit, just for the scrap. i held onto to that until hypers main offensive came back, and then i recycled most of my stuff and left with my units, cutting losses. was some GOOD fighting on both sides. and hyper, i musta killed like 3 or 4 of your walkers, and ik my APCs ate you up. not like it mattered tho cuz you had your own:)

but when i attacked rusty, i suddenly realized when i was outside his base that i had no scrap for an outpost. but i saw few units, so i rushed with my 3 or 4 tanks and 2 APCs, and hoped that the scavs would make it home long enough for my nearby con to make an outpost. at first, i was a nearly flawless attack. the GTs were distractd by me hiding behind the cliff, and my tanks and APCs made short work of the first set. key word, first set. i suddenly realized that about 10 GTs were sitting inside rusty's base, and modded turrets. i still managed to take ALMOST all of it down, then i got ejected. as i landed, i saw rusty running as a pilot over to the last turret. i missed my sniper shots, and then i called my last tank to me, but he blew it up with his turret just b4 i got in, and i died. so close. cuz if i had won there i wlda had ALOT of scrap.

VERY GG

oh and btw, i was slow on my build-up. and I had no idea that hyper was off attacking rusty. if i had been faster and known where he was, i probably could have drove right through hyper's base. but i was cautious and decided to wait it out. didnt go too well...

furykiller vs panzer

canyon maddness

I'm going to skip all the way to the part where Panzer's base was destroyed and he lost one of his lives. Up to that point, it had been a very typical game. Panzer played very well, especially with his experience. He had already sniped one of my lives. So I invaded his base, and as i was finishing off his units, i sniped his 2nd life. down to 1. he wisely ran back and away from his spawn, and eluded my units. then he challenged me to hunt him down.

awhile later, i had minelayers ALL over the map, myself in a walker, bombers and tanks with popguns on hunt, and GTs were under construction. then i noticed i was short on time (class was going to start soon), so i asked for a hint. I concluded he was near my rec, so i launched 3 DWs, one for each hill above my rec. then, i switched to a tank and began driving around. i spotted him and i hopped out to try to snipe him. bad. he missed all my shots, my tank slid away, and then the DWs landed. i died, but he was out of range.

so began a mad chase of his stolen tank, from which he was ejected, then he aquired another tank, and then i ran out of amo, and it just got all crazy. the hunt was on but he kept eluding me, my units, and my sniper rounds. finally, after all kinds of ejecting, almost being run over, surviving popgun hits, and dodging sniper rounds, panzer and i had a dual a pilot duel on a cliff, and i jumpsniped him. but WHEW. very very close.

never underestimate that player with the one life. ever

Megatron (CCA) vs Cerberus (NSDF)
Map: Ice Ice

OOOOooh boy... you guys remember my buddy megatron here... well he gave me one hell of a fight... it actually ended in a draw!
Soo you guys know my buildup. I set my rec down and had it build 4 scavs while I went looking for my little buddy Mega. I found him to the east of me. So naturally I dropped a nav up on top of one of the spires just to frustrate him while he went looking for the little red thing. Meanwhile, the scrap gathering back home was going good, so I built a rig and an MUF. Landed the MUF and started pumping out tanks and scouts asap, cuz I remembered Mega was a crazy rusher. My rig built a silo near the HUGE scrap deposit right next to my base. After that, I had it build a small outpost immediately outside my main base. Supply depot and hangar, plus some GTs.
Around this point, I saw some red on my radar, and went to go take a look. Found a few fighters, and started searching for Mega's tank. But it was just 3 fighters... which confused me a little... But I aggro'd them and dragged em back to my GTs, which demolished them. At this point I remembered that an Armory would be useful, and so built one. Landed it and re-armed. Now I was totally confused becuz Mega was nowhere to be found. So I took a pair of scouts on my wing and went exploring near his base. I found a HUGE and I mean MASSIVE minefield. That thing was HUGE. I mean it literally covered hundreds of square meters... I grabbed one of my scouts and looked at it's attack menu... found 8 minelayers... which explained the minefield... At this point I decided that maybe an all out assault might not be the greatest idea XD.
This whole time, Mega was nowhere around. So I returned to base, and had a heart-attack. There were 8 Golems marching straight at my base. I would not have known they were there if one of my razors had taken a retarded path and run into them. At this point I panicked a little, and hid behind a mountain. The Golems marched THROUGH my Gun Towers, and then died by way of my 6 or so howies. Then to my horror (or laughter), a half dozen tanks flew in and started wrecking that which was left. I wondered how he had 14 combat units, when I realized that the last 4 golems had taken a while to die. Those tanks were destroyed by my army which I had moved back to run from the walkers which would have mauled them. I went to more scavs to gather up all this wonderful scrap... and then mega sniped me. I respawned and got sniped again. I respawned again and jump-dashed behind my rec, which got hit. That was mega's death knell, cuz he had been ignored (ironically he was right next to my barracks XD). He was killed by a tank. Then a few minutes later he died again, but I had none of my units near his base. I got a huge laugh when on the chat he commented that soviet scavs all needed to die... especially the one that steam-rolled his ass. So both of us were down to one life.
Put simply, the next 40 minutes were basically 4 big dogfights, one in the middle, two near his base, and one near mine. I even rushed him with TUGS and APCs. The tugs took the hits from his mines and gts, then the APCs did their jobs. The one in the middle was a giant tank fighter scout and scav moshpit. The one near my base was a mass of bombers and apcs, and the ending fight, the one that won/lost the game for both of us was a medium size war between tanks and light tanks.
So that last fight was INSANE. It was me and 6 tanks and 2 rocket tanks vs him and 4 tanks and 6 light tanks. He had gone stoli crazy cuz you know how the AI loves to do craziness with their tag cannons. The first 10 seconds of combat was me dodging tag rounds and stabber rounds. I FINALLY got him in a 1v1 with my grizzly vs his czar, and I blew his ass up. He lands and snipes one of my grizzlies, and the dogfight resumes. Skipping a bunch of flying, I will get to the sweet sweet end. So the fight ends with 4 vehics. One of my rocket tanks, one of my tanks, him in ANOTHER jacked tank, and one of his newly built bombers. Ok, so I got nova'd and land behind his tank, and am gonna snipe him to end it. However, at that moment, my rocket tank fires a comet the same second the bomber shoots off it's rocket bombs. The comet hits the tank Mega is in at the same time the rocket bombs do (yeah, he flew into them XD). The good part was that as he was ejected, the shockwave from both the Comet and the bombs hit him and killed him. Many of you have been on the receiving end of that in DM, so you know it's instant death. Here's the bad part. I was behind the tank. I got very dead from the shockwaves and the tank blowing up on me XD.
So in the end, we both had 0 lives. Was the funniest thing I ever saw. Cuz it said that he lost and he won, and that I lost and I won. But in the end, was a really good match. We were both laughing about it in the lobby for the next 20 minutes, and then argued about tactics etc etc.

But yeah... GG Mega.

Cheers!

WOW! that is an intense fight. now my question is how he got the scrap for all of this. 8 minelayers=32 scrap 8 walkers=96 scrap THATS ALOT OF SCRAP! im guessing he hardly built anything else, and that he collected from the unoccupied spawn.

also, where were your howies and GTs placed? and how many? cuz that was pretty lucky getting all the walkers with the howies:)

now at the begining, where you found the minefield, your tug tactic might have been very useful, esp if you had an APC. but i see that you used it later:)

that ending is crazy...absolutely beautiful. both players die at the exact same time...crazy

Lol yeah, he had all the scrap from the empty spawn, plus he was scrapmakin about 2 minutes in.



I had the howies all around my MUF back in my main canyon, and the GTs were all outside by the 3 outer spires. If you don't know what I mean, check the map, and look at the area right outside the starting canyon lol...


Yeah... no tugs lol... was busy makin scavs, and he has this nasty tendency to snipe out my tugs and then steal em and recycle em... He was the first to get subjected to the Tug insanity, so he was the first to come up with ways to counter it.


Yeah, hence why I put it up, cuz it wasn't boring XD

LATE JOIN SURVIVAL

Map: Biometal Run
Players: RAVEN, iamNoob (aka xXIoriXx), furykiller

When I joined, the game had been going along for a significant time (around 30 mins; i don't remember exactly). there was no scrap whatsoever. I also found out from iamNoob that RAVEN had a huge base and all the scrap. well no matter, i had a tank, a rec, and 20 scrap. i deployed at the geyser set just outside RAVEN's base, and scrapped a nearby silo. My one scav got to work on it. then i approached RAVEN's based and i discovered that by some huge miracle, snipe was on. i sniped a scav, and then began scouting RAVEN's base. i noticed another silo, then i saw about 3-5 GTs, and maybe 2 SPs. Then, i saw RAVEN's tank chasing me. so i ran back to my base. by this time, i had gathered enough scrap for a factory. RAVEN, upon seeing my rec, changed his fire from me to my rec. he was quickly ejected, providing myself with more scrap. eventually i had another tank and 2 APCs, and a few more scavs. from this point, i organized several very sucessful hit and run attacks on RAVEN's outer structures. i had the APCs attack the silo since it was closer, while i was distracting the GTs. this plan worked beautifully; most of RAVEN's structures went down. I saw him launch a counter attack with 3 APCs and 3 tanks, so i grabbed some scrap (with the scavs that had been following me) and retreated to my base to hold off the impending invasion. Then, without warning, RAVEN left. iamNoob pretty much stayed outta the way the whole time; i think he had no prod units, and was providing sniper harassment during the course of my attack. So after RAVEN's leaving, iamNoob and i called it a game and left. GG!

now my reason for posting this is to show how even if you join a strat late, and even if you are at a disadvantage, knowing what to do can still give you a fighting chance. its important to know since on some days its harder to find a fellow stratter in the lobby. and that with skill, an old game can become a GG.

CAPTAIN CHOES!!!!
map :biometal run
people:player , capt choes, me, and silent death
well there server was pretty inactive so i made strat.i set up silos across the map and built 7 scavs. started building my defensive wall up. about 8 mins later Player joined the game and asked for a 15 build time. i accepted useing this to send 2 bombers out on hunt to find more scrap. about 5 mins later Player attacked several of my scavs. he said sorry and said it was his bots. but then out of nowhere 10 tanks showed up on my front door. they stop behind my mountain giltched supply and one starts splinting very badly around it. i yell at him and he says that it his bots again. (right a splinting bot?) he units run off towards his base and disappear after exchanging some potshots. then capt choes arrived under and alias(dont rember it but it did seem very choes) we told him hes like 30 mins late but he counted to play.choes attacks and i take out his wave at this point he leaves with a great CAPT CHOES STRIKES AGAIN and comes back under the name lonefox. i lead my attack on player base and slam it to ti with 8 grizzlys and 2 bombers. player died off shortly later and attempted to rejoin. and choes started taking out my silos and with it my 150 stored up scrap. he also took out my scavengers but i had about 70 scrap in my base. he seems to have hardly and units and then silent death and player come in. i fight off player and silent deaths seemingly one after another. i am put all my units out side my base to start to heal them and switch out weapons. wheni see a lone bomber on the horizon it was choes. iam sitting here wondering what he was doing with all my units bunched up behind me when i see a come 30 feet in front of me.I SCREAM f#$% and attempt to shoot it. but it explodes and takes out 6 of my tanks/bombers including me. choes retreats and soon a light tank comes by and gets destroyed along with 2 or 3 of players scavs. i attempt to build up my army again when i notice litttle yellow dots descending on my gun towers. it was choes replacing them with mini guns(why didn't he use flash i have no idea?) i get pissed at replace them with sp stabbers . choes than leaves and comes back again. then player took out the rest of my tank and i ask for this match to be a draw. he tells me to rebuild because i have a untouched base set up. he half heatedly sends 2 apcs to my base witch get taken out by my towers. he leaves after this. then i see a large force from silent death approcing and deiced to cut my losses and get the hell out of dodge.

the moral of this lesson: a well placed comet can make all the difference.

You defeated the Great Capt. Choes!? HIS HACKED!

Map: Biometal Run
Players:
- Myself (CCA)
- Tom (NSDF)
- Ernest T. Bass (CCA)
- Apex of Fascism (CCA)

I joined late.

Setup the Rec and went exploring. Found a couple of Tom's silos, so I destroyed them to get some scrap. Tom and Ernest's scavs were in the area. I destroyed them all.

I got twin-SP and MDM. Hangar and Supply.

I went to the west to look for scrap and bumped into a major battlefield between Apex of Fascism and Tom. It was a huge melee.

I joined in and everyone was firing at multiple targets. The double-SP was a bad choice as Apex came into close range... One full charge dual-MAG would have ended his tank's life. Due to the nature of the battle, I was lucky enough to have my Rec not been attacked by Tom or Apex. Ernest snuck into my base to plant a nav but that's about it.

Tom told me that he thinks Apex was Alt-Tabbing, Scrapmaking, and using Grey Scrap. I shrugged it off and kept playing...

Tom shoots me out of my Stoli and I'm in the air. Miss two shots... land on the ground...

POW! HAHA!

Tom baked by xGurenx

I take his Grizzly and lay waste to his scavs but I'm unable to do much as Apex begins to drop minefields.

I chase Apex into his base after he began to run. His Gun Towers eject me and I fly over his base trying to snipe him... he has the max allotment of every building.

5 barracks, 5 silos, and so on...

I landed behind Apex and fired right on his pilot.

No dice... lol wut? He warps really bad but with 75 ping.

I commit suicide to get back to base by jumping on his Czar's front-end... I was jumping and shooting his tank... he never paid any attention.

Apex started using a minelayer like how Jens does. Soon he got an army of 10 minelayers and 10 Scavengers following him. Luckily, I came into scrap and got a Czar and a Stoli to protect my factory. Apex's funny army was at my factory, marching to my rec. Then, one of the funniest things in BZ happened...

Ernest sent 10 bombers to attack me and instead ordered them to attack Apex. Apex responded by dropping mines.



Only two Bombers remain... I destroyed them.

I now have a massive scrap field about 300 meters away from my factory... I was a happy man. I soon sent out a hunting squad (Grendel-Stoli) and they destroyed Tom's Constructor.

Apex soon ruined the game by splinting everyone's production units... I was the only one left to put up a decent fight...

(2 Golems, 1 Stoli, 1 Flanker, 2 Paks, 3 Scavengers, Factory, Constructor, Barrack, 2 Silos, 2 Hangars, 2 Supply Depots, and roughly 20 scrap)

Ernest left, followed by Apex.

Me and Tom went to check for evidence of Grey scrap usage. I didn't find any but Tom said he found some.

I left the game.

1st Place: Tom
2nd Place: xGurenx
3rd Place: Apex of Fascism
4th Place: Ernest T. Bass

Good Game.

Questions? Comments?

I'm still waiting for a day when I'll hear someone say "He is very good with splinters", "I had a great splinter game", or something like that. But I'm afraid that day will never come. Nobody likes to be splintered, except when saying that to sound "tough". In a splinter debates those who are the most against it are always the quitest. To an outsider it may seem we are split, even though we all think the same about it.

http://www.battlezone1.org/improved-splinter-toggle-t1067.html

I actually am somewhat against splinters, but I still use them, so I keep quiet because I don't feel like being a hypocrite. I say that since splinters are part of the game, you have to get used to them, and if someone wins by splinting, then kudos to him for using a somewhat cheap and nooby tactic. But if you can beat a splinter, then kudos to you for actually knowin how to fight. But what one has to remember is that splinters use a lot of ammo up, so if the person is splinting, you can usually take them out easily, since they are using up lots of ammo, and usually not concentrating, since placement is key to taking full advantage of a splinter. But all in all, I must admit, saying someone is good at splinting is like saying dual blasts require careful aim point blank. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to be able to use either, and it kinda goes without saying that splinting is a relatively easy tactic, just like re-arming CCA GTs with dual blasts.

No doubt I will get some flak for this, so yeah... just a thought.

Your post is a bit contradictory, don't you think?

You first say "splinters are part of the game", and then you say "if someone wins by splinting, then kudos to him for using a somewhat cheap and nooby tactic". If something is part of the game (I'm not referring to exploits here), like splinter is, then it can't be cheap or noobish to use them.

You also say "if the person is splinting, you can usually take them out easily" and then you say "splinting is a relatively easy tactic". Contradicting yourself again. Weapon that is in the same time easy to use and easy to eliminate is called minigun, not splinter.